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Trollheart 07-18-2018 01:05 PM

What Sucks About This Genre: Classical Music Edition
 
Sure, there are many different sub-genres in Classical and we could talk at length about any of them, but let's be general here: you're either into classical or you're not. If you're not, why? What sucks about it?

Key 07-18-2018 01:07 PM

I will not be participating in this. Just throwing that put there.

Read the prog one if you want my opinion which I'm sure prompted this thread.

Trollheart 07-18-2018 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiiii (Post 1976794)
I will not be participating in this. Just throwing that put there.

Read the prog one if you want my opinion which I'm sure prompted this thread.

It did. But this is your chance to say why you don't like it. No? Okay then. As you wish.

Key 07-18-2018 01:16 PM

I've said what I've already wanted to.

Trollheart 07-18-2018 01:17 PM

Fair enough.

Frownland 07-18-2018 01:18 PM

The biggest issue with classical is that the way classical musicians are typically trained is a method that rewards conformity over creativity.

I guess it's an extension of what I wrote above, but I think that the composer/player dichotomy is whack. 3 suck

rubber soul 07-18-2018 01:30 PM

There are exceptions such as Ride of the Valkyries, mentioned in the prog thread, but overall, it isn't a genre that excites me all that much. Odd too since I like the use of the form in much of rock (Moody Blues, Left Banke, ELO).

MicShazam 07-18-2018 01:42 PM

There's actually a good tradition in classical for putting expressive play over boring, mechanical precision, so I think a lot of musicians could learn from that. Not least metal drummers and guitarists.

But I'm supposed to tear the classical down, so...

Maybe there's an over reliance on playing the "greats" for the 10.000th time instead of covering more obscure and/or recent material. I guess that's to be expected. People want to hear the famous stuff.

I'm bad at this. I don't know enough yet to really have any complaints. A lot of the stuff from 1500 to 1700ish is kinda dull though... I tend to like the religious pieces better when from this time period. The fancy entertainment written for the elites is less amazing. But it's a hugely broad slice of time, so it's bound to be a downright retarded simplification. You don't have to tell me that.

Key 07-18-2018 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubber soul (Post 1976823)
There are exceptions such as Ride of the Valkyries, mentioned in the prog thread, but overall, it isn't a genre that excites me all that much. Odd too since I like the use of the form in much of rock (Moody Blues, Left Banke, ELO).

Be careful what you say. Having a negative opinion of classical gets you chastised here.

Trollheart 07-18-2018 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1976840)
There's actually a good tradition in classical for putting expressive play over boring, mechanical precision, so I think a lot of musicians could learn from that. Not least metal drummers and guitarists.

But I'm supposed to tear the classical down, so...

Maybe there's an over reliance on playing the "greats" for the 10.000th time instead of covering more obscure and/or recent material. I guess that's to be expected. People want to hear the famous stuff.

I'm bad at this. I don't know enough yet to really have any complaints. A lot of the stuff from 1500 to 1700ish is kinda dull though... I tend to like the religious pieces better when from this time period. The fancy entertainment written for the elites is less amazing. But it's a hugely broad slice of time, so it's bound to be a downright retarded simplification. You don't have to tell me that.

No, you don't have to. You can say it doesn't suck and why it doesn't. Just as valid, ie what sucks about classical? Nothing, it's cool. And you vote 1. Up to you.


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