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Old 12-14-2021, 01:21 PM   #81 (permalink)
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I wasn't talking about the "public opinion"

If that was what I was talking about, then MJ would've long been in jail.
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Old 12-14-2021, 01:22 PM   #82 (permalink)
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Old 12-14-2021, 01:28 PM   #83 (permalink)
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I wasn't talking about the "public opinion"

If that was what I was talking about, then MJ would've long been in jail.
This whole convo was started because someone saying he was a pedophile and you responding that it was only an allegation...idunno maybe you have a different understanding of what public opinion is than I do.
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Old 12-14-2021, 01:29 PM   #84 (permalink)
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This whole convo was started because someone saying he was a pedophile and you responding that it was only an allegation...idunno maybe you have a different understanding of what public opinion is than I do.
Public opinion = he's a pedophile
Facts = allegedly he was a pedophile
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Public opinion = he's a pedophile
Facts = allegedly he was a pedophile
Statement A + Statement B = Claims of pedophilia are not factual

Sounds like taking a side on the matter to me.
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Old 12-14-2021, 01:33 PM   #86 (permalink)
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Statement A + Statement B = Claims of pedophilia are not factual

Sounds like taking a side on the matter to me.
Claims of pedophilia are not proven

But, as Dan Rather says, if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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Old 12-14-2021, 01:39 PM   #87 (permalink)
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(Not with the second part though – ever heard of the Ugly Duckling?)
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if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
...we should not form an opinion about whether or not it's a duck until a court does DNA testing on the animal, develops an intensive family tree showing duck lineage, and has a jury certify it as a duck.
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...we should not form an opinion about whether or not it's a duck until a court does DNA testing on the animal, develops an intensive family tree showing duck lineage, and has a jury certify it as a duck.
If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck we shouldn't assume it is a duck, because it might not look like a duck
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