Can I just say that I was never with "it", nor was I hip lol.

As for owning two dozen versions of an album, I don't. I have one version, that's it. I get why someone would do that. I mean, it's called collecting for a reason.

I have lots of friends who are heavily into audio gear. They prefer the 70s/80s versions of things. I can guarantee that their love for music is not secondary.

I've done this a few times. Joanne Newsom f.ex. didn't have her music on streaming services, so I bought some and uploaded it to my Google play music library, now YouTube music, just so I can have her music stream on my service like the other music on there.

I also bought Don Tiki's entire discography. Or well, I had to get a mate in the US to buy it for me and reimburse him because of weird Amazon restrictions :laughing:

Okay, but there will always be those who embark on a hobby for the right reasons.

While I can’t speak for anyone else here, my understanding of this thread is that it’s more about the bandwagon jumpers and not those who are seriously into vinyl. Maybe I’m wrong but that’s my understanding of this thread.

LOL! That's one thing I have no experience of. I've largely been anti-Apple, so have never given that corporation a penny of my hard-earned cash.

I've bought some music on iTunes when I couldn't find anything better, if only for the reason that most streaming services, despite offering you the possibility to download songs for offline listening, will sometimes randomly decide to just delete your downloads for no particular reason, so that's fun

And jam, tear, have to be rewound, have no way of allowing you to find the part you want (unless you have a counter), twist and get ripped up, deteriorate badly over time, can be stepped on, accidentally recorded over, have dropouts, can be wiped by strong magnetic fields etc etc.

Yeah, that's the problem with digital downloads: zero resale value.

Even if they did have some resale value, there isn't any legit online platform that allows such transactions. That's the main reason why I try not to buy too much music in this format.

At least with tangible music formats, you can invest and profit later down the line.

But if you want to own the file(s) but can't download them anywhere else...

But that's not always the case, especially when the music genre is more specialist.

LOL! Well, sometimes, the files aren't available in the desired bit rate or digital format, so one has to pull the plug. But, yes, at least 99% of the time, it's possible to find the recordings you want if you know where to look.

It's all in the soul. Seek and ye shall find.

As for cassettes, as you all know I'm from that era, and even then I never bought any albums on cassette. No point. The only cassettes I ever used were blanks, and this was to record albums, or compilations, so that I could either listen to my music on the go, or sit back and listen to a collection of my favourite music without the need to put on all the albums.

These days this can be easily achieved via playlists and you can even shuffle them so well-known and played playlists don't get boring. It does take away the old pride I used to have in mixing or getting songs close enough that they would almost run seamlessly without gaps, but that was something I used to fill my time with and would almost certainly never do again. Even if it's something you want to do, there's software you can do that with now, so the feeling of achievement is not the same.

You guys should get together and start telling people what stratigically superior clothes they should buy instead of what they are buying now. I'm sure there is some quick drying ultra soft stain resistant pants that are the only logical pants to buy out there. F*ckin stick it to them GAP jeans wearing pansies.

You're not HIP enough to understand that's all

If this was directed at me...

...I run a record store.

When you see a nice ass in blue jeans, that's America's ass you're gawking at, baby.

Edit: (Made in China of course)

I haven't worn jeans in well over a decade. I guess I'm doing something right!

I buy the odd digital release on bandcamp. I do it for three reasons:

1-supporting the band
2-I can't find a physical copy anywhere. That seems to happen more and more with EPs. It sucks.
3-Reissues. For example, I saw that Hayden reissued his first album, but did it through bandcamp. I didn't need to buy the original album again, so I paid for the extras instead.

Why would a donkey need to wear jeans?
I was never hip.

What did the old guy say when the doctor gave him two hip replacements?

"Hip, hip! Hooray!"

That's a good dad joke. Something tells me I'll be telling that one soon.

And look like you're in an indie folk band. Don't forget that.

Not so much these days. Now it's more like the guy at a swans show with his arms crossed.

A distinction only a hipster would know.

says the guy who is contemplating getting his septum pierced ;)

Nether less, I have manage to get a chance to listen to something on an Analog cassette tape before and they sound exactly the same to my ears as the digital version.
It gets to the point where I wonder why people are even obsessed with analog cassette tapes and vinyl's even though soundwise, its not very different(unless it eventually gets degraded).
The only reason why they would even like those stuff is exclusively for Nostalgia purpose only, that's it.

Otherwise, if they are so concern about the sound quality. especially those who say they want it because its superior "sound quality", they might as well get studio monitors like these....
https://www.ecosia.org/images?q=studio%20monitor#
Which is by the way, WAY more superior to the sound quality coming out of an analog cassette tapes and vinyl's, and WAY more superior to even a speaker from your radio, your computer, your laptop, and even more superiors to iphone speakers, which is why Music Studios use them.

So again, if you are concern about "Superior sound quality" and not nostalgia, maybe you should get a Studio monitor if you can afford it that is.

(then again, I have a studio monitor at home right now anyway, and I am more concerned about the songwriting of the song usually then the sound quality of what devices I am listening to so this might be a bias take but whatever)

I don't recommend studio monitors for general listening because they kinda do the opposite of what you want unless you're mixing / mastering.

If you're listening to a bad mix, good studio monitors should make the problems apparent so you can fix them.

A good set of just general speakers should make a bad mix sound better. They're made to promote enjoyment.

Keeping it simple, people should just consider: what are studio monitors made for? Is it for music enjoyment? No. It is for music production. This includes hearing and finding errors.

Anything that masks faults will make monitors worse suited for their purpose. The same isn't true for speakers made for enjoying music. Hence, there are certain things one can conceivably do with speakers that might increase the general listening experience that one could / should not do on studio monitors.

Hence, my general advice to not buy studio monitors unless you're going to use them for their intended purpose, which is mixing / mastering. You know, consider what something is engineered for before you use it for something else.

But perhaps people could also be a little clearer on what it is they mean by good quality sound. Is it a sound that is accurately recreated or it is a sound that's enjoyable? The two isn't necessarily the same.

About mixing high frequencies, something which has gotten big in mixing the last few years is AI-based EQing. Most people's kneejerk reactions to that will be negative (and even more so with people with hard earned experience with music production), but playing the devil's advocate, I'd say a lot of people who work with music have damaged hearing and a second set of (AI) ears can be good. It will of course work to homogenize the sound of music further in the future (which is kinda boring).

Since it's been around in the production world for a few years now, I assume it may exist in the world of music consumption too, though I haven't been paying attention to it there.

As I have mentioned before...
Since I owned a studio monitor, I have listened to music through those studio monitors a lot, with no problem, it might not be as colored as the stereotypical audiophile speakers(but it is certainly extremely high quality to the point where it is clearly accurate), but it doesn't really matter, since in the end, what's more important when it comes to music is songwriting, followed by talent and production.

’Production’ can include a multitude of sins.

Stereotypical audiophile speakers are coloured? Be brave and find a local JBL retailer who stocks their Project K2 S9900 model. Don’t pretend you’re going to buy them. Be honest and tell them a discussion is taking place on Musicbanter forum about high end speakers versus others. I’d love to hear back what happens.
Oh, and don’t stand up while listening to them, sit down, but not too low.

https://www.whathifi.com/au/jbl/k2-s9900/review
https://www.hifinews.com/content/jbl...-s9900-£28000

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