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SGR 07-11-2022 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vetiver (Post 2210127)
That may not be the case for you but that doesn’t mean everyone else is the same.

I’ve been on music forums where members are clearly more into owning two dozen versions of the same album, or are more into acquiring (or hoarding) as much hi-tech gear as possible. In both cases, I gained the impression that their supposed love for music is secondary (and often very limited or conservative).

We're much cooler than Steve Hoffman - on that you have my word. With that said, we're not all that cool.

Trollheart 07-11-2022 02:23 PM

I'm definitely not.
I remember when I was cool (no I don't) but now what's cool seems weird and disturbing to me.

SGR 07-11-2022 02:26 PM

You watch too much Simpsons, Trolls


Ayn Marx 07-11-2022 03:57 PM

Not one of you has the slightest idea what you’re talking about.
Do you imagine the technology illustrated below is all about status and showing off to your visitors or some other irrational theory that’s been thrown thoughtlessly around here ? OK, you need a healthy bank account to go down this path but dont assume everyone dedicated to following it is some kind of technology moron.


https://www.theabsolutesound.com/art...s-50000-and-up

Vetiver 07-11-2022 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR (Post 2210134)
We're much cooler than Steve Hoffman - on that you have my word. With that said, we're not all that cool.

LOL! Fair enough.

Vetiver 07-11-2022 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx (Post 2210147)
Not one of you has the slightest idea what you’re talking about.
Do you imagine the technology illustrated below is all about status and showing off to your visitors or some other irrational theory that’s been thrown thoughtlessly around here ? OK, you need a healthy bank account to go down this path but dont assume everyone dedicated to following it is some kind of technology moron.


https://www.theabsolutesound.com/art...s-50000-and-up

I think we do. We're just not factoring in the ultra-affluent music lovers.

Btw, I read about extremely expensive turntables, hi-fi components and speakers back in the late '90s, and have made my peace with them. They are beyond my reach. Besides, for me, it's always been about discovering as much great music as possible than the equipment it's played on.

Ayn Marx 07-11-2022 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Vetiver (Post 2210149)
I think we do. We're just not factoring in the ultra-affluent music lovers.

Btw, I read about extremely expensive turntables, hi-fi components and speakers back in the late '90s, and have made my peace with them. They are beyond my reach. Besides, for me, it's always been about discovering as much great music as possible than the equipment it's played on.

Three things.
A: Many of the digital recordings you enjoy were taken off analogue masters from mint condition LP’s as the original tapes had degraded.

B: If you imagine my ‘extravagance’ in running a state of the art turntable is about the equipment it’s played on, you’re mistaken. It’s all about what resides on the thousands upon thousands of LP’s in my collection, most of them early pressings given to a reviewer who only played them once on a state on gear that didn’t damage them. The other side of all this is those who run budget turntables to play used, and often abused LP’s are the one’s who are deluding themselves about the wonders of analogue. But hey, if the snap, crackle and pop makes them happy who am I to object ?

C: I’m over having to justify my ‘extravagance' so will leave this topic alone from now on.

Vetiver 07-11-2022 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayn Marx (Post 2210154)
Two things.
A: Many of the digital recordings you enjoy were taken off analogue masters from mint condition LP’s as the original tapes had degraded.

B: If you imagine my ‘extravagance’ in running a state of the art turntable is about the equipment it’s played on, you’re mistaken. It’s all about what resides on the thousands upon thousands of LP’s in my collection, most of them early pressings given to a reviewer who only played them once on a state on gear that didn’t damage them. The other side of all this is those who run budget turntables to play used, and often abused LP’s are the one’s who are deluding themselves about the wonders of analogue. But hey, if the snap, crackle and pop makes them happy who am I to object ?

C: I’m over having to justify my ‘extravagance' so will leave this topic alone from now on.

Woah, easy tiger…

In answer to your comments:

A) Yes, I’m well aware of that. I’m also aware that some remasters are inferior to the original master pressings due to either sound degradation of the masters or technical incompetence. However, I was raised listening to music on below par hi-fi equipment, so I’m not desperate to discover the nuances in dynamics of a studio or live performance on ultra-expensive music systems.

B) I never said that there aren’t any genuine music enthusiasts who use ultra-expensive music systems but, from my experiences, they seem to be a minority. And, yes, owning such equipment is an extravagance, whether or not you like to admit it. To own an extremely expensive turntable requires one to also own equally expensive amplifiers and speakers. And then there’s the maintenance involved – not just in the equipment but also in vinyl care products. As for the last part of your comment, have you ever considered that not everyone has the means or is knowledgeable about owning a quality vinyl collection and stereo system?

C) You were never asked to justify your ‘extravagance’. I just joined and hardly know anything about you. Whatever set-up you have doesn’t bother me – it’s always about one’s music tastes first and foremost. IMHO, the more eclectic and unconventional, the better.

jadis 07-11-2022 05:33 PM

Everyone on this thread: yeah there are plenty of guys stuck in a bespoke identity from 2006 but it's not like digital doesn't suck

AryanMarx: HOW FU%KING DARE YOU! You know NOTHING about me and my life, which is definitely very interesting. Before you thoughtlessly hurl around your irrational confabulations, have you considered the thousands upon thousands of vinyl records kept pristinely in my lovely little shed?

Ayn Marx 07-11-2022 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Vetiver (Post 2210158)
have you ever considered that not everyone has the means or is knowledgeable about owning a quality vinyl collection and stereo system?

Yes, I have but my intention was to challenge the idea spending large amounts of money on LP reproduction was a form of delusional pretentiousness, a claim often made on this site.


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