Noel Gallagher Has a Boring Taste in Music

Trollheart · 12-23-2022, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Lisnaholic

I'm sure Trollheart is referring to list entries like this:

What Norg's list says to me is that there are a lot of bands out there that I have never heard of, so thanks to TH for putting up some reassuringly familiar names - and yet, by Noel Gallagher standards, TH has come up with a list ranging far and wide across countries, genres and eras. I can easily imagine NG seeing TH's list and saying, "Wow! I am bewildered by the eclecticism of this Trollheart chap."

Yep that's what I meant. It's not a top ten if each position, or some of them, are occupied by more than one artist. That's just cheating.

Also lol lol lol at my music and the word eclectic being in the same sentence!

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Originally Posted by Norg

hmmm... i never even heard of half that stuff ill have to check it out

this tells me was late 80's earrllyy earlyy 90's was your hey day huh ..???

Nah, late 70s to late 80s, with a little tip over into 1990s (born '63)

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I still like Genesis

So do I, I just prefer when they were an actual progressive rock band, not a pop one. Their last album was really quite dire. Which is a pity as it really was their last one.

jadis · 12-27-2022, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

I still like Genesis

Any particular album you recommend?

Trollheart · 12-28-2022, 06:48 PM

Depends on what you want. For older, classic prog you can't go wrong with Gabriel. I'm not a massive fan of Selling England (I see a lot of flaws in it) and would recommend Trespass or Foxtrot or maybe Nursery Cryme. If you want to be bamboozled by a hard-to-understand concept album, Gabriel's last hurrah on the double The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is required listening.

Collins era I prefer to remain in the mid-seventies, with Wind and Wuthering and Trick of the Tail my favourites, followed by Duke (by which time they were turning in a more pop direction: think "Turn it On Again" or "Misunderstanding") or ... And Then There Were Three.

SGR · 12-30-2022, 05:59 PM

Trick of the Tail be the one

Trollheart · 12-30-2022, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR

Trick of the Tail be the one

Lisnaholic · 12-30-2022, 07:31 PM

I think I'd go with Foxtrot just for the wondrous Supper's Ready track, with Selling England as a v close second place.

Trollheart · 12-30-2022, 07:38 PM

Yeah, if I want to hear a 12-minute song about East End gangsters fighting, I sure don't want it from Genesis. And they can stick the instrumental that follows it, too. That's half the damn second side.

Queen Boo · 12-30-2022, 11:59 PM

I didn't know what to make of Battle of Epping Forest at first but it grows one me every single time I listen to it, it's kinda like if every part of Supper's Ready was as goofy as the Willow's Farm section, it's just too bonkers for me to not get a kick out of it, it's "pleb filter" as the kids these days like to say.

I like After the Ordeal too, it probably is my least favorite track on the album but as an interlude (or "breather track" as I like to call them) it does it's job splendidly.

I agree that side A is stronger overall but side B has The Cinema Show which is my favorite Genesis song bar none.

Trollheart · 12-31-2022, 05:16 AM

Without those two I would rate SEBTP much higher. Side one has no filler. At all. Side two has, as you say, "Cinema Show" and I even like "Aisle of Plenty" with its clever wordplay and link back to the opener, but no, "Epping Forest" will never grow on me (pun not intended!) and "After the Ordeal" is both so apt a title and also inextricably linked to it that I can't like it.

Then again, remember, I'm the guy who doesn't rate Close to the Edge!!!!!!!

But I know my Genesis, and this for me was their nadir (not the album, the track) before, say, "Ballad of Big", which I also hate, and then of course we have Abacab coming on the scene like the Grim Reaper bringing the slow death, slight recovery, good recovery, last gasp, and final ignominious passing of one of the greatest prog rock bands on Earth.

Lisnaholic · 12-31-2022, 07:20 AM

I always skip Epping Forest when I can, but I'm ok with After The Ordeal.

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Originally Posted by Queen Boo

I like After the Ordeal too, it probably is my least favorite track on the album but as an interlude (or "breather track" as I like to call them) it does it's job splendidly.

I like this notion of a breather track between the full-band intensity of their longer songs, though I would've chopped a bit off from the medieval-ish start of Ordeal.. It's kind of irritatingly delicate to me.

Rather in the way that people reduce the White Album to a more satisfying single album, I wish Genesis had recorded Selling Foxtrots By The Pound:-

Spoiler for tracklist:

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Of course we are all entitled to our opinions, but this one is clearly wrong

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Then again, remember, I'm the guy who doesn't rate Close to the Edge!!!!!!!
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12-28-2022, 06:48 PM	#33 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Depends on what you want. For older, classic prog you can't go wrong with Gabriel. I'm not a massive fan of Selling England (I see a lot of flaws in it) and would recommend Trespass or Foxtrot or maybe Nursery Cryme. If you want to be bamboozled by a hard-to-understand concept album, Gabriel's last hurrah on the double The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is required listening. Collins era I prefer to remain in the mid-seventies, with Wind and Wuthering and Trick of the Tail my favourites, followed by Duke (by which time they were turning in a more pop direction: think "Turn it On Again" or "Misunderstanding") or ... And Then There Were Three. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

12-30-2022, 07:31 PM	#36 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	I think I'd go with Foxtrot just for the wondrous Supper's Ready track, with Selling England as a v close second place. __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

12-30-2022, 07:38 PM	#37 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Yeah, if I want to hear a 12-minute song about East End gangsters fighting, I sure don't want it from Genesis. And they can stick the instrumental that follows it, too. That's half the damn second side. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

12-31-2022, 05:16 AM	#39 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,970	Without those two I would rate SEBTP much higher. Side one has no filler. At all. Side two has, as you say, "Cinema Show" and I even like "Aisle of Plenty" with its clever wordplay and link back to the opener, but no, "Epping Forest" will never grow on me (pun not intended!) and "After the Ordeal" is both so apt a title and also inextricably linked to it that I can't like it. Then again, remember, I'm the guy who doesn't rate Close to the Edge!!!!!!! But I know my Genesis, and this for me was their nadir (not the album, the track) before, say, "Ballad of Big", which I also hate, and then of course we have Abacab coming on the scene like the Grim Reaper bringing the slow death, slight recovery, good recovery, last gasp, and final ignominious passing of one of the greatest prog rock bands on Earth. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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12-30-2022, 05:59 PM	#34 (permalink)
SGR No Ice In My Bourbon Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: /dev/null Posts: 4,326	Trick of the Tail be the one