hate to say it ally, but sound is not what determines an emo band. its about the lyrics. thats y u can have bands like atreyu be considered emo, despite the fact that they have a metal sound. i recomend u read "Nothing Feels Good." That should give u a better definition of emo...

yea ive been meaning to read that book, i heard its good. but i still cant agree with coheed being truly emo. coheeds lyrics arent just being really emotional about something that happened to them in their lives, all the lyrics are just a story. yes some are emotional, but overall its just giving details of the coheed/cambria saga. i just think they arent a true emo band.

so emo's all about the lyrics.. correct?!? (cause nickleback has some very emotional stuff {ps i m just making a point, i don't think they are emo}) if and emo band goes mainstream, is it still emo?!? some of the older listed bands have gone mainstream.. back in their own days. we concider them emo. i still wonder what is and wnat isn't. then a again i think.. whats more important what others think or what i think is good.. isn't that what "punk" is all about, not caring, doing what you want, so why are we all so hell bent on classifying...

oh and i don't remember who made the comment but this is great, " yeah some of these bands have great SONGS but they aren't great BANDS

let me set this straight.

most of you are wrong, dashboard did not start emo.

emo bands are some of the following

Rites of Spring
Saetia
City Of Caterpillar
Indian Summer
1905
JR Ewing
The Assistant
Orchid
Spirit of Versailles
Hoover
Hot Cross

This is real emo. Not Taking Back Sunday, or Thrice, or any of that nonsense, and if you havent heard any of these bands, i suggest getting your download on.

undefinedhm... i was reading, i just wanted to put some of my fav emo bands

hidden in plain view
starting line
brand new
taking back sunday
coheed and cambria
finch
matchbookromance
senses fail
saves the day
rufio
something corporate
early november
dashboard confessional
funeral for a friend
static lullaby
never heard of it
the beautiful mistake
new found glory
my chemical romance
fall out boy
thrice
saosin
boys night out
story of the year
thursday

mmk, maybe i said a lot.. and some may not be considered emo.. but have a lil emo.. i see potential.. just wanted tosay something

frost guy you are right by saying those bands are emo but so was DC. Anymore post-emo has become labeled as emo therfore making DC's early stuff emo I mean come on DC started because Chris had some love trouble so he started touring on his own and hes been in bands like FSF and propaghandi so...

Where did you get this information of the true definition of emo? How do you know they are not emo? There are billions of people that think they know what emo is, but they are all different ideas of the topic. I think you would have a greater understanding if you read the book "Nothing Feels Good."

most of the bands there were calling themselves (and playing) emo since before any of these other flash in the pan bands came out. they play emotional songs with actual emotion live. they may not bring a stadium full of people to their shows, but they play with conviction and with love. they love what they play and have been playing it forever. i would have to say this makes them emo.

Jesus Im getting sick of people conforming emo to one or two bands Emo started in the 80's and has been evolving and frosty boy are you saying that bands like Hawthorne Heights or Matchbook Romance dont sing about love and love what they play but no you have to sub catagorize them into screamo Here it is boys and girls MOST HARDCORE, SCREAMO, SOME INDIE, HEART-CORE, EMO-CORE, ARE IN SOME WAY EMO BY YOUR DEFINITION so stop contridicting yourself

ok i agree with you that they play their music with conviction and emotion, but so do these so called flash in the pan bands...they are not saying they origional emo or anything...i think you are just frustrated that you have listened to this music for a long time, and now all of a sudden it is getting alot of attention, and many are jumping on the bandwagon, but you want to stand out as an origional...i used to be like that and that is how my attitude was... im not trying to offend you, just trying to help you out.