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Who_Cares 06-01-2004 08:23 PM

Emo "In Thing To Do"
 
How long and why has EMO been the cool thing to do? I m starting to see all of these preppy girls and guys at concerts and local shows who have probably only listened to about 10 EMO songs in there life, its kinda sad.... I started listening to this music because I love it, but also because it was different a couple years ago, and now it seems like everyone has to listen to it. I feel like im losing my individuality in a way, which isnt feeling good.. I just wanted to know what bands/corporations made the music I know and love the fad...

Thrice 06-01-2004 08:25 PM

I Got All The Answers In The Book "nothing Feels Good" Which I Picked Upo Today, When I Finish Reading It I Will Answer All Your Questions...sorry For Caps.

brokenheartsandfallenhero 06-01-2004 11:26 PM

well all of these poseur guys do it becasue chicks love us original emo guys so they just try to blend in...I dont know why girls are doing it though.I tell ya though only us that were emo before it was the cool thing to do are true emo!!!

starEied 06-01-2004 11:51 PM

um and girls don't have feelings, broken hearts, shattered lives, angst? i feel it, just because a guy is singing a song about a girl it doesn't mean that i can't receive some sort of emotional therepy and enjoyment from it.
..even though most of the lyrics in songs are very um, demening (sp?) and um well threatening, almost. it is somehow theriputic to imagine a guy having just as much pain as i am and i hope that it is burning just as bad in his stomach as it is in mine.. and that is why girls are "into it"

Who_Cares 06-02-2004 02:33 AM

We arent being sexist or anything Star, when I said preppy girls, I added guys in there too because they do it as well... I just hate how everyone is into it now because I got into it to be DIFFERENT, but now i cant be, no matter if i was into it before it was cool, it makes no difference... lol damn Franco Unamerican is a good song, ive listened to it like 20 times tonight, maybe thats what ill do now, just get into hardcore punk since i like that too , and it will probably never get too popular just because of its raw sound

brokenheartsandfallenhero 06-02-2004 10:15 AM

Yea sorry if I came of sounding like a biggot star.:( I was just trying to say that that is why the preppy guys have turned to it now I just dont know why preppy girls have all of the sudden, some of my best friends are emo girls and I know they are filled with just as much emotion and angst, their writing is incredible so I wasnt being sexist, sorry.

Who_Cares 06-02-2004 07:32 PM

Im not saying that all girls or friends whoever are being posers, its one thing if they are into the emo scene because they truly love it, but its another if they are into it because its the fad right now... That=POSERS and people who are pissing me off, i dunno what it is, but i would never want to be in the popular crowd, or even really liked by them , im not anit-social or anything, i have my own ppl i hang out with, and i dont wanna be friends with people who cant be true to themselves or whatever you wanna call it.

starEied 06-03-2004 01:44 PM

its also a thing if they're into it because they re are being fed it.. whatever the radio..mtv..ect tells them is cool. gurrrrr..r r
and no prob, i didn't think you were being sexist.. but i was just making sure

IamAlejo 06-03-2004 03:57 PM

If you listen to a certain type of music just to be "original" than you aren't listening for the right reasons. You should listen to music because you love it, because you can relate, but not to stand out from people.

Who_Cares 06-03-2004 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo
If you listen to a certain type of music just to be "original" than you aren't listening for the right reasons. You should listen to music because you love it, because you can relate, but not to stand out from people.


I do love it, ive already said that a couple of times, but I think doing your own thing is another reason to listen to certain types of music ya know?

Eltiraaz 06-03-2004 08:11 PM

Naw, with clothing style, and more superficial things its good to do things that kinda set you apart, AS LONG AS YOUR INTO IT, for real. If your doing it just for the sake of standing out then your missing the purpose of the lesson. Being PUNK or whatnot, itsnt about being different as much as its about being true to yourself, and not caing what anyone else thinks. With something like music, dont choose not to like a song just because its outside of your normal listening range,(hXc punk, metal whatever) you should judge it for yourself and see if you yourself can get into the music. Thats why i listen to such a wide variety of music. Im most farmiliar with punk and electronic, but i also really dont mind listening to something like spanish guitar, or latin music, and even some classical just because it hooks me in and i like it.

And yes emo is becomeing a fad, but thats no reason to retreat into further musical obscurity. Just like it for what it is, dont mind others. If your true to yourself, I find theres no way you CANT be happy.

Who_Cares 06-04-2004 01:23 PM

First of all, i thought ive made it clear that im not into this stuff just to be different,but being different is important as well, but again, not the only reason im into what im into, ive said that i truly do love this music a couple times now .. second, i dont even dress punk, and third, what does hXc mean? People seem to twist words around a lot in this forum.. :(

Eltiraaz 06-04-2004 01:34 PM

hXc is an abbreviation for Hardcore, kinda of like sXe meaning straight edge.

Im not accusing you or anyone else, but I did hear someone say something like "so now im only going to listen to hardcore because all the jocks are listening to emo" or something. I just personally think thats not the point.

seriously though half the stuff thats said are just peoples opinions, no one going to hold anything against you. its all pretty rhetorical.

Who_Cares 06-04-2004 01:49 PM

Yea i know , i think its just that i kinda answered the same question two times in a row, sorry if im being an ass or nething.

Eltiraaz 06-04-2004 02:02 PM

Theres one in all of us.

Who_Cares 06-04-2004 02:12 PM

Stop calling me an ass! haha

IamAlejo 06-07-2004 02:22 PM

If everybody is trying to be an individual, is it really that individual? Wear what you want, listen to what you want, not to stand out, but to be happy. I'm a surfer, and living by the beach I see people all the time with their hotline (local surf shop) etc shirts on....I don't care. I'm not trying to stand out. It's who I am, and it's who I'm happy with.

xcollapseofmyheartx 06-07-2004 05:34 PM

cool thing to do? really? at my school everyone
a. thinks emo is about slitting your wrists every night
b. thinks that afi and good charollette is emo
c. hates emo. even though they dont know what it is.

jibber 06-07-2004 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo
If everybody is trying to be an individual, is it really that individual? Wear what you want, listen to what you want, not to stand out, but to be happy. I'm a surfer, and living by the beach I see people all the time with their hotline (local surf shop) etc shirts on....I don't care. I'm not trying to stand out. It's who I am, and it's who I'm happy with.

^ nice job, I completely agree. I really don't understand what the big deal is about new people getting into the music. How do you know why they are at the concerts? give them the benefit of the doubt, they are most likely there because they heard the music, and they liked it. why else would they pay money for a concert ticket and spend their time to see them play live? and anyways, they're ultimately just supporting the band, giving them more exposure, and helping them out financially, so shouldn't you be glad that more people are starting to like the music that you're into?

Sharky 06-10-2004 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Who_Cares
How long and why has EMO been the cool thing to do? I m starting to see all of these preppy girls and guys at concerts and local shows who have probably only listened to about 10 EMO songs in there life, its kinda sad.... I started listening to this music because I love it, but also because it was different a couple years ago, and now it seems like everyone has to listen to it. I feel like im losing my individuality in a way, which isnt feeling good.. I just wanted to know what bands/corporations made the music I know and love the fad...

You're a real prize idiot you are. You're losing your individuality, yeah, what a typical crying-out-for-attention-teenager rant that is. Your individuality is based on your physical appearance, and your personality - not by how you dress and what you listen to. How the hell does a few more people in the emo scene make you lose your individuality? Here's a newsflash buddy: You were never an individual in the first place. Because I'm sure even at the start there was more than 1 emo fan.

Emo isn't "the fad" and never has been. If some "preppy" girls and guys want to listen to Emo then that's their choice. If you don't like it, tough ****, it's what you get for thinking that people who like certain music will dress a certain way.

I find it laughable that you have judged the popularity of the scene, by looking at the way a few peeps at a few concerts dress. I also find it laughable that you've managed to estimate the number of emo songs these people have listened to, also by the way they dress.

Does dress code tell you SO much about a person that you even know what music they like, and how many tunes they've listened to in X genre?

I mean, why should it piss you off so much that these so called "preppy" people are listening to emo? Surely you have something in common, a mutual love of Emo? I mean why do you have to assume that the only reason these "preppy" people like ANYTHING at all is because it's "cool" to like it?

Ugh you're such an ignorant whingy bitch you really are.

Thrice 06-10-2004 05:45 PM

awesome reply sharky (that was sarcasm jib)

try not to be so rude...everyone has their opinion, if you wish to debate a topic, do sp politely please, thankyou.

Sharky 06-11-2004 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Thrice
awesome reply sharky (that was sarcasm jib)

try not to be so rude...everyone has their opinion, if you wish to debate a topic, do sp politely please, thankyou.

I wasn't being rude I was being blunt, but yeah point taken it was a bit harsh. But hey, the good stuff in my post came on the same spur of the moment as the blunt stuff. So it was either enjoy the good bits but put up with the occasional attack, or just have this really tame, mellowed out bull that mean't nothing to anyone.

Thrice 06-11-2004 07:33 PM

cool, just try to keep out the craziness next time.

Sharky 06-11-2004 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Thrice
cool, just try to keep out the craziness next time.

Hmm, I'll do my best but remember that not every single post on this forum will be totally positive. Negative opinions must be allowed too.

brokenheartsandfallenhero 06-12-2004 06:05 AM

Negative opinions presented in a positve way man. As far as the topic goes I dress how I want to, listen to what I want to, live how I want to, and I wont change this if 100 people at my school do the same thing or if Im the only one because I have been like this for years now and I dont follow fads but Im not so insecure that I run from them either

Sharky 06-12-2004 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by brokenheartsandfallenhero
Negative opinions presented in a positve way man. As far as the topic goes I dress how I want to, listen to what I want to, live how I want to, and I wont change this if 100 people at my school do the same thing or if Im the only one because I have been like this for years now and I dont follow fads but Im not so insecure that I run from them either

Bah. I totally agree.

I can't be bothered with all this spending money on being "cool" and "in". I'd rather invest it in something worth while.

Being female makes it even worse. You think impressing other guys is hard you should try impressing other girls - you're either in or you're not, there is no in between. So I just can't be bothered, I've been called an "avril-lavignealike" and stuff like that but I really don't care, to be honest anyone who's a girl and dresses somewhat alternatively is automatically "avril-lavigne" anyway.

I figure dressing X way doesn't help you out any. You'll still always have someone who doesn't like you for it.

IamAlejo 06-12-2004 08:16 PM

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they're ultimately just supporting the band, giving them more exposure, and helping them out financially, so shouldn't you be glad that more people are starting to like the music that you're into?
Exactly Jib. If you enjoyed the bands, you'd be happy for them. The more "prep kids" listening to them, the more exposure they get. The more financially able they are to continue making the music YOU enjoy. If you think it's great, why wouldn't you be happy that other people share your passion?

Sharky 06-13-2004 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAlejo
Exactly Jib. If you enjoyed the bands, you'd be happy for them. The more "prep kids" listening to them, the more exposure they get. The more financially able they are to continue making the music YOU enjoy. If you think it's great, why wouldn't you be happy that other people share your passion?

Well said. :)

ursoscenexx 06-20-2004 12:06 PM

Meh. It happens in every scene/subculture.
When something becomes commercial it normalises.
That's life :)

Sharky, I'm sensing abit of contradiction. You say that individuality has nothing to do with how you dress and what you listen to and that it's based on your personality & physical appearance. How we dress IS part of our physical appearance and I don't know if it's just me, but I was under the impression that music has the power to change the way you think and to influence you, thus making an impact on our personalities and who we are as people.

jibber 06-21-2004 02:30 PM

^ good points. Saying that individuality stems from our physical appearance seems a bit shallow to me. While I do agree that it IS an aspect, it's in no way a major one, at least from my point of view. I think that youre personality, your interests, hobbies, and likes and dislikes, define who we are as an individual far more so than our physical appearance.

aar0313 06-21-2004 07:32 PM

Sad thing about all those kids that dress and act 'gothic' persay as Whocares said have probably only listened to about 10 emo songs in there life. Everyone is saying Emo is the new thing but in reality Emo started a really long time ago.

jibber 06-21-2004 07:36 PM

I really dont see why the way someone dresses is of any concern to anyone else. So what if someone has a "goth" style or "emo" style and hasn't listened to alot of that particular genre (the whole genre labeling thing being pretty pointless too, but I wont get into that). So now someone has to be an expert on the genre before they can get into that specific type of music? seriously, listen to the music you want, dress how you want, and let others do the same. stop putting so much energy into what other people are doing and start putting it into your own life, and relating to other people rather than critisizing them.

aar0313 06-21-2004 07:39 PM

Ok i really hope that wasnt directed towards me only because i have to be the furthest thing from stereotypical. I could really care less how people dress or what music they listen to. I was just trying to point out the fact that some people are 'posers' persay but not that i dont like them.

jibber 06-21-2004 07:49 PM

^ no, not neccesarily directed at you, but the poser thing brings up another issue. Again, I fail to see how "posers" are bad. First off, how does someone get labeled a poser? and second, why is it bad? if someone is buying merchandise, it's only helping the band, so wouldn't you as a fan be happy?

Who_Cares 06-30-2004 01:43 AM

Alright, i agree with you guys almost completly, ive gotten over this.... i think it was just that no one liked the kind of music i do like 6 months ago, and all of the sudden everyone liked it, i think it was just kinda a shock to me so i started labeling , it is good for the bands and a lot of good music will come from the popularity, so sorry if i offended anyone..... but man, you guys need to voice your opinions a little better i wasnt looking to be made fun of like most of you did i didnt think i was being an ******* by making the thread, but maybe a little selfish thanks for making me feel like **** guys :)

covle 07-01-2004 03:25 AM

one more thing you guys arent remembering. different areas label similar things totally contrastingly. for one of you out there, "emo" may be defined as "pop-punk" to other people in other countries/cities or whatever. you guys could be describing a group or individual from your school or whatever to the board and everybody could be visualizing something totally different, perhaps even themselves. you could be labelling them as "preps" or "sell-outs" whereas you or another member may have been labelled as that yourself/themself. thats why the prospect of labelling is so preposterous. in each different area, there is a different social structure/basic belief. for example hXe or sXe might to some of you be basic "punk" or emo or whatever language, but other people have never heard of it. even from my brief chats to ally (emochick) on msn showed me that we have blatantly different morals and beliefs in the same topics as each other. now, shes in montreal canada and im in melbourne australia. both of us, it could be presumed, are in some way a part of our local punk scenes but the structure of those respective scenes are in no way identicle and hence we have completely contrasting views on basically all things.

jibber 07-02-2004 07:03 PM

^ nicely said. I've said in a few other threads that labeling music is really quite useless. Music is simply what it is, and all you really have to define it are your own personal opinions and reactions to it, so universal labels are really impossible to go by, because no one will ever agree on specific, set boundaries within those labels.

covle 07-03-2004 03:00 AM

nobody agrees, hence the debates on this site. but people have to learn to accept other peoples opinions and not attack them personally for their beliefs.....not nameing any names

Thrice 07-03-2004 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jibber
^ nicely said. I've said in a few other threads that labeling music is really quite useless. Music is simply what it is, and all you really have to define it are your own personal opinions and reactions to it, so universal labels are really impossible to go by, because no one will ever agree on specific, set boundaries within those labels.

Thats exactly what i have been trying to say, but there are people that are stubborn and have a certain mind-set, and don't listen to anyone elses opinions.


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