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BlueCadet 03-12-2009 02:53 PM

United Nations
 
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United Nations was started by Geoff Rickly, the vocalist/lyricist of the band Thursday. Other artists involved in the project possibly include Daryl Palumbo, vocalist of Glassjaw and Head Automatica, and Ben Koller, drummer for Converge. However, all members except for Rickly are under contracts with other record labels and are not legally permitted to work in projects released by another label, making it difficult for the official lineup to be well-known.

This is the only album they have out right now (self-titled), but apparently they have like two already recorded just waiting to be released. Anyone heard this album? I think its fantastic, probably the best hardcore record from 2008 in my opinion.

swim 03-12-2009 03:14 PM

I didn't know this was a Rickly band. That's a shame because they suck.

xcult_classicx 03-12-2009 03:30 PM

i beg to disagree, if i didn't know anyone from thursday or kiss it goodbye was in it, i'd totally say this is the best thing to come out of nowhere since god knows when. but that's me. i just dig this stuff.

alliteration 03-12-2009 06:06 PM

yeah, i thought this was pretty terrible.

paengkee 03-12-2009 11:00 PM

theyre a few years too late to ride on the bandwagon imo. this is what happens when you do screamo all too well.

sugarandspite 03-16-2009 11:28 PM

I think it's a pretty well done CD.

I'm personally looking forward to their next releases.

Rubber 03-22-2009 09:11 AM

(from an interview with Rickly...)

I feel like there's a huge influence from the Nation Of Ulysses regarding the aesthetic, the song titles and even the band name.
Absolutely. Actually, we're working on a kids record right now called United Nations Plays Pretty For A Bunch Of ****ing Babies, which is gonna be all the same songs from the full-length, but done [like] Kidz Bop jams.

[Cracking up.] Seriously?
Seriously. As serious as that idea could possibly be. That's how serious this is. [Rickly later clarified that kids will not actually be singing on the record, but more accessible, child-pandering vocals and novelty instruments such as xylophones will be utilized. He drew a comparison to the Wiggles as an example.]

Is Eyeball putting that out too?
I'm not sure. It might come free with the first 1000 or 2000 orders, and then never be printed again. So it's just like a thing that people who are excited about it in the first place [get], and everybody else [will miss] out on.


Get pumped.

sugarandspite 03-22-2009 04:09 PM

Holy ****. I'm so excited about that!

I'm going to have to buy that when it comes out!

Alfred 12-30-2009 07:05 PM

Did anyone else get on this? I personally think it's one of the best hardcore albums I've heard in while. Looking forward to hearing more stuff by these guys.

Rubber 01-04-2010 07:19 PM

All I really got from this is that they really don't like Refused.

anticipation 01-04-2010 09:20 PM

believe it or not i got syphilis, gout, emphysema, and inverted nipples from listening to this.

Alfred 01-04-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubber (Post 794579)
All I really got from this is that they really don't like Refused.

I think you're taking that song the wrong way. I thought it was critical of Refused at first, but I think it's a kind of regretful song that states that Refused's vision of "The Shape Of Punk To Come" is not really what came.

For example, the last line: "Sometimes false hope is better than nothing at all. Sometimes a dying breath can make true words.".

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 01-04-2010 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Alfred (Post 794622)
I think you're taking that song the wrong way. I thought it was critical of Refused at first, but I think it's a kind of regretful song that states that Refused's vision of "The Shape Of Punk To Come" is not really what came.

For example, the last line: "Sometimes false hope is better than nothing at all. Sometimes a dying breath can make true words.".

rickly whining about what punk became after what thursday became and contributed to... thats rich. UN is his excuse to namedrop all his tr00 emo influences. you know, the ones that inspired him to produce my chemical romance's debut, tour with them and the used, etc. disregard that ****, a basement show with you & i in '97 or whenever is where they're actually coming from... yeah right. UN is just a poor ripoff of 90's screamo and rickly admits it. and it goes without saying they are light years away from pv or grindcore. whoever thought it was a good idea to call them either should be shot.

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To be honest, do you think many Thursday fans, as well as fans of the other...certain big band that's represented here...are familiar with bands like Orchid and Majority Rule?
Probably not. But I don't necessarily think that means that they're too stupid to get those bands. Because they haven't been exposed to it doesn't mean like, "Oh, they're gonna hate it because they don't get real hardcore or whatever." I think a lot of those kids are pretty open-minded, and a lot of them are saying, "I went and checked out the bands that they're ripping off or whatever, and I don't dig it, but I'll listen anyway." You never know. They might actually end up liking it. For me, at least, it's really liberating to be like, "Well, I don't really give a **** whether they like it or not because that's not really what this project's about." I'm having fun and I'm just gonna do it.

Do you think United Nations could sort of be a gateway, in that sense?
I hope so. Even if there's a few kids that get into all the stuff that inspired me to be in Thursday because of United Nations, then I'll be stoked. All the bands that we played with when we started--like You And I and Saetia, Reversal Of Man-- played my basement and are from my whole culture. [They are] my whole cultural reference.

On that note, do you think it's at all ironic that guys from bands commonly mis-categorized as screamo in the past few years came together to form an actual screamo band?
[Cracks up.] Yeah, that's kind of funny, isn't it? Because that's what Ben [Koller] from Converge kept saying, like, "Dude, I know that we're sort of calling this power-violence or whatever, [but it] really actually is what screamo is about. This is mid-'90s screamo right here, for real." And I was like, "I know. It really is." But if you say that, everybody thinks the Used. You know what I mean? Or whatever people call Thursday or Glassjaw, or whatever. It's not actually what it is. [We] always [say], "No, really, Thursday is post-hardcore. We're not a screamo band. I know screamo bands, and--[Laughs.]--we're not."

Alfred 01-15-2010 09:47 PM

Well regardless of where Rickly sticks his nose, I loved their album. A "poor ripoff of 90's screamo" they may be, but they keep me coming back for more. I think it's a really well done little album.

bardonodude 01-16-2010 07:36 AM

btw, did anyone else here about thursday asking daitro to tour with them and daitro turned them down because it wouldnt be diy.

Alfred 01-16-2010 10:19 AM

No, but that's pretty funny.

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 01-16-2010 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bardonodude (Post 811432)
btw, did anyone else here about thursday asking daitro to tour with them and daitro turned them down because it wouldnt be diy.

yeah hahaha


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