Emo, timeless?
 

Will the genre of emo music be timeless, something that will continue to build upon itself for years and years? Or is emo music selective to this generation...to a generation that is seemingly hellbent on heartbreak? I mean i like emo and all but I personally cannot see popular emo bands developing into a phenomenon that is always cherished (such as the beatles, zeppelin, etc) I just feel the fundemental emotive level of the music is something that will only be appealing and truly understood by our generation. What do ya think, your children will bash the music we cherished or embrace it?


"We never have to say 'I love you'
Stutter first ...
'I love you'..."

well personally i think that it depends on the more specific genre, since emo is a term that has become so broad that it has bascially lost all meaning as a classification. and as for bent on heartbreak... kids will always be depressed or pissed off about something, thats for certain, but its how generations will choose to express this which matters. i think that with bands like simple plan calling themselves emo will mean that the actual genre never realy gets off the ground in popular culture, so it will probably continue to gain momentum in alternative scenes... but whether or not it eventually fades into obscurity cannot be predicted

There will most likely always be an amount of people listening and creating "emo" music as a genre although it could become a very small group. Take big band music or swing as an example. It was influential during it's time and now only a small few continue to listen and rediscover it.


That's just one part of the cycle. If it continues next comes the refocusing of the genre as the trend fades.

We will just have to see though.

the term emo comes from the word "emotion" people will always be emotional and there will always be musicians of some sort. emo music has progressed from its original forms already. it will definately progress again, as all styles of music have in the last few decades. take punk for example. it started as a certain type of music that came from a certain group of people. now look whats happened to it. its branched off into a sh*tload of other sub genres. but there still remains that same type of punk that existed in the early days. all types of emo music will still remain but within the next ten or twenty years, a lot of less or possibly more popular variations of emo will spring up. emo as a genre is timeless, its the styles of it that arent,

there will never be an emo band seen in the same light as the stones, zepelin, sabbath etc becuase basically, those bands branched out to a huge audience- youths and adults. emo is specifically an adolescent genre- by that i mean its there for teenagers whos emotions are all over the place, they need to seek identity so they find it in a band who whine and shout about their troubles- troubles some teenagers relate to.
but as you get older you become more balanced and you dont have these insecurities, thus your musical tastes mature, i dont know anybody above the age of 25 whos a fan of emo, indeed at a concert my sister went to for FFAF she said she didnt see one single adult there the whole time. i am talking about the mainstream "emo", no doubt all you people who harp on and whine about "real emo" will disagree with what ive said- but ultimately i think emo is just a phase for teenagers- a phase im not actually going through and probably never will.

So you don't think emo music is capable of universal appeal? On the fundemental principles that make it simply enjoyable to listen to, disregarding adolescant aimed lyrics? Why can't emo music be enjoyed by all? The lyrics of the beatles and other bands of the late 60's we're motivated by a stong anti-war sentiment that does not fully apply to the world today, however, those bands still appeal to various generations, regardless of whether the lyrics apply, but simply because the music is great music.

I agree with LedZepStu, emo is more for a certain age range.. Of course anyone can like it, its just that they dont. Its that simple, they just dont like it. Like he said, teenagers emotions are often all over the place, so emo is just something for them to turn to. If they like it that anyway. The beatles appealed to people because of their music, just like you said, and emo doesnt appeal to people for the same reason. Its just taste...

And to the first post, I dont think emo is timeless. I think it'll be around for a while, just like the hundreds of other genres, but nothing like the beatles and led zeppelin... When we have our grandkids around and emo music is playing, they'll probably be thinking 'ugh, classical...'
Ok maybe not that extreme, but you get the idea!

somehow i cant see our generation saying to their grandchildren "oh i remember when i first saw brand new"

no i dont.

your parents never thought they'd be telling you about the time they saw Led Zepplin yet my do. All the time. I've grown to hate that band just cause the stories...

Many people on this forum don't just listen to emo, they branch out and find great music. As long as there are people searching for good music, then emo will be alive.

Btw, I'm listening to the Rites of Spring CD which is an emo band that's 20 years old.

Oh yeah, and the Beatles suck. Beatles have no amount of creativity. If you noticed they're just another idolized pop band. They did not pioneer anything new, they were simply making music associated at that time, which sounded like most bands in that age. I'd rather listen to dead emo music

Well i actually like the beatles, probably due to the fact that i was brought up on them. And while i do agree that they became too commercialised and were idolised for being "the greatest rock band ever" when really they just made pop music that they knew would sell, i'd like to point out that john lennon, in my opinion is one of the greatest muscians of all time. His songs are a great example of emo music. He's written some of the best emo lyrics ever..

firstly, perhaps you should add "in my opinion" after saying they suck because really, a band that has the most number ones and the highest selling british album of all time do not suck. yes, they were over-commercialised in the beginning, and yes, they were slightly overrated but isnt that like most emo now? and their psychedelic was not mere pop, it was highly creative, whereas emo to me is just generic rubbish where all frontmen are the same and all songs are similiar. at least the beatles actually changed and developed their sound.

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You were just comparing the beatles band to the whole emo genre...That doesn't make any sense

You generalized a genre that has over a thousand bands

"a band that has the most number ones and the highest selling british album of all time do not suck"
-Usher has as number of number 1 sellers in America, so he must not suck. This also applies to Britney Spears, the Backstreet Boys, N Sync, etc... They all must be really good since they have many number one selling albums.

"they were slightly overrated"
-Yeah, just a little bit. That's why 2 out of 3 girls would scream their names at concerts and idolize them. Sound familiar?

"whereas emo to me is just generic rubbish"
-Didn't you just say "perhaps you should add "in my opinion"". It makes you seem as a hypocrite losing all credibility.

And in conclusion:
Why would I have to say "in my opinion" when I'm saying it. Of course its my opinion. This is an online forum where people express opinions... If I said in my opinion I would be merely restating the obvious.

I'm done

right, notice i said "to me" before i said emo is generic rubbish?.
secondly, 2 out of 3 girls screaming suggests that they merely be fans of the band, nothing wrong with that is there.
no, usher isnt crap, hes just not my particular taste, and britney spears, Nsync and co havent had 27 number ones both sides of the atlantic have they? or the biggest selling album in their country ever.
and the reason im comparing the emo genre to one band is to me(<-notice that?) emo is all the same.

The beatles don't suck, listen to revolver

Not quite sure what the honor is to you two but I just found sig quotes.

just to bring you back to the beatles argument...personally i think theyre great, not just for their music but just for the significance (aware i cant spell that) factor, i mean we wouldnt have half the bands we do now if it werent for them, as with The Smiths, i LOVE them, but i also love BrandNew and similar bands who strongly take their influence from them...so you cant just say that they suck because i can guarentee that at least one of the bands you like has taken alot of influence from the beatles, so rather than saying they suck you should be repsecting them for bringing you the music you like :)

oh and also to you....i dont see why you felt the need to highlight that because you love music because it can relate to you or you like the actual music riffs or whatever...just becasue you're not gonna tell your grandchildren about them doesnt make them crap or useless...i bet atleast 99.99% of the bands around now wont be around in 20 years..slag all of them off then..it says on your profile you like "versions of emo"...you honestly think that you're gonna be telling your grandkids about the bands you like? :nono:

^THERE YOU GO! Thats true.. Ok I have no way of making that point without repeating any of what she said, Im not thinking quite straight at the mo... Buuut she's right, so many bands will be influenced by the beatles, so even if you didnt like the beatles themselves, you can appreciate what they did for music.. Which Im betting you dont, and fair enough, cos people dont tend to agree on musical type things, which is good I suppose, otherwise we'd all be the same and musicbanter would suck so many eggs... Fleh and Im still talking.

In summary; Im with her^ I can appreciate what the beatles did for the music scene, although I wouldnt chose to listen to them. Wow, sorry for the really un-understandable psot, Im not really with it today...

hehehehe why thank you! but its true, so many people are influenced by their own music...but dont appreciate the influences the previous "generation" had...

It`s a fad

The same way Hippys, Goths , New Romantics , Grunge, Shoegazers , Ravers , Punks , Mods & Glam were.

It`s popularity will go up & down while it`s cool or not cool to like it or not.

yeah exactly, all music is just a fad, every sort of time era has a different 'fad' of music, we've just gotta appreciate what music we have now and respect why we have it and where it came from, its gonna be like that to every generation

hippies are making a comeback..mark my words.

to say the beatles made music like everything else at the time, its simply an uneducated statement. You don't have to like them, but thats wrong.

What in the name of God is a shoegazer?

Noone said that. Not once. We said that they did inspire some of the bands today, so you CAN give them credit for that.

shoegazi man


get into it.

aka the baggy scene, the stone roses are a good example.

Not quite

Shoegazing was a kind of British less grungy grunge

Bands like Chapterhouse , Slowdive , Ride , My Bloody Valentine , Pale Saints , Lush , Drop Nineteens , that sorta thing.

Ah someone DID say that, Zealious pretty much did when starting this whole debate:

Ohhhh I see. Sorry, my mistake... Musta slipped past that post *hides head in shame*

I don't think there is a single band that can match the talent, versatility, or originality of the beatles. The beatles can be considered "pop" only because they were popular, which is because they were a great band, but they are not "pop" in the sense that they conformed to the current musical trend in order to sell records. If you look at the beatles albums (all 18 of them) they vary quite diffently, and each is a unique expression of their musical abilities. All the members (- Ringo) could play several instuments and were amazing vocalists. Now this is my opinion, and I agree it is difficult to compare artists of different genres (classic rock, emo) but overall I don't think therer is a band that is as well rounded as the beatles. And yea they were overcommercialized...

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