I don't understand Post-Hardcore.

[Mikael]

Really the title says it all. From what I've read, Post-Hardcore is basically what happened after hardcore got boring and hardcore kids got irritated with certain aspects of hardcore, specifically it's formulated and constricting sound and it's excessive bravado. What I'm unclear on is what the characteristics are that define a group as post-hardcore. I've seen the genre used to describe so many artists that sound very different so I'm a little confused.

Name drops welcome, though I think I'm familiar with the more common examples- Fugazi, At the Drive-In, Drive like Jehu, to name a few.

[sidewinder]

Quoting from last.fm's genre profile, this sums it up nicely:

"...In other words, post-hardcore takes the energy and values of hardcore punk and applies them to art rock and noise rock."

"Post-hardcore developed due to not only the stylistic limitations of hardcore punk, but also as an effort directly alienate the boorish, violent culture that had grown around hardcore punk much to the ire of the influential figures."

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by sidewinder

"...In other words, post-hardcore takes the energy and values of hardcore punk and applies them to art rock and noise rock."

Oh if only it did

[Mikael]

Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger

Oh if only it did

Wanna fill us in, then? Or is the latter unspecific quote really all there is to it?

[Dea-Destruction]

I think that kids believe that they can change whatever the hell they want too. Stupid ass kids these days!

[Alfred]

Hardcore Punk's educated, art school-attending younger brother.

[Urban Hat€monger ?]

Originally Posted by Mikael

Wanna fill us in, then? Or is the latter unspecific quote really all there is to it?

Seems perfectly self explanatory to me.

If Post Hardcore did actually take the energy and values of hardcore punk and apply them to art rock and noise rock I would listen to a lot more of it than I do.

I'm not saying it doesn't but from the stuff I have heard more of it misses the mark than it hits if we're going by that description.