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pmorr 09-08-2005 04:44 PM

Real Hardcore
 
Does anyone actually appreciate Hardcore music, I'm not talking about this new screaming **** that basically has disgraced real hardcore music and the staples of hardcore music.

Well anyway does anyone like real hardcore music like the Gorilla Biscuits and so on?

All_Nite_Dinah 09-08-2005 05:06 PM

ugh

DidierD 09-08-2005 06:08 PM

can u describe 'real' hardcore?

Reign 09-08-2005 06:12 PM

I never really considered alot of screamers hardcore.

AND OMG THE GORRILA BISCUITS? I LOVE THEM! (no sarcasm there i really do)

SharksAndDanger 09-08-2005 09:22 PM

does 'poison the well' count? i like em

sleepy jack 09-08-2005 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DidierD
can u describe 'real' hardcore?

Any music that he likes and is 'punx'.

pmorr 09-08-2005 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MIsfitspunk
Any music that he likes and is 'punx'.

Ha your such a vag face.

What I meant was before it broke down into all those sub-genres, and was just hardcore, like the Refused, Gorilla Biscuits and Minor Threat.

sleepy jack 09-08-2005 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmorr
Ha your such a vag face.

What I meant was before it broke down into all those sub-genres, and was just hardcore, like the Refused, Gorilla Biscuits and Minor Threat.

Nah i no what you mean i was just messin with ya.

All_Nite_Dinah 09-09-2005 06:01 AM

Hardcore was being broke down and restructured by the mid/late 80s refused was along after that. Refused also origingally took alot of heat from traditional hardcore fans on there non traditional aproach to the music. Dont get me wrong I love refused but calling them original hardcore is pretty far fetched. I think the scene your trying to get to is 80s american hardcore i.e. Minor Threat,Government Issue,DRI,MDC, White Cross, Dead Kennedys, Teen Idles, Regan Youth, Circle Jerks, etc. etc. In which case yes, people here like it search for any of the above bands mentioned and you will more than likely find a thread, so PLEASE dont start another one.

RealXenWarrior 09-15-2005 08:23 AM

what are you talking about disgraced? You're a disgrace brother. REAL hardcore is exactly as it sounds, don't try to pull any fundementalist crap with me, the beginnings of HxC were meager at BEST.... what with bands like minor threat that blew royally... Gorilla biscuits? Earth Crisis? Vegan Reich? Lame.... Lamer...Lame.... REAL TRUE Hardcore is about the feeling, not sucking your ass off.... come on now.... band that do it right have the talent, the musicianship and the ear, just because they were'nt born in the 60's grew up listening to the doors, and the clash, and ozzy, though he is the man of course, doesn't mean they can't truly be hardcore, it's an instinct, not a bastion that your dumbasss gets to play seige the castle with... go find some unearth, as i lay dying, terror....then come back to me and speak.... read up son. :)

All_Nite_Dinah 09-15-2005 12:22 PM

unearth, as I lay dying, and terror are all absolutly terrible bands. And if you want to be anal about it there not really "real" hardcore either.

riseagainstrocks 09-15-2005 05:12 PM

Unearth shreds. face it. but they aren't hardcore.

i like:

xLooking Forwardx
From Ashes Rise
Ten 33

and most of the bands on Facedown and Strike First records.

RealXenWarrior 09-16-2005 07:46 AM

Im talking about hardcore, not in the literal sense, because lets face it at the other end boys, the music scene isnt very literal or academic at all... old school hardcore... well there was nothing necessarily hard about it... thats all im saying... with all due respect it was kind of lame and im glad its overwith, just dont jump on the oldschool "hxc" bandwagon and preah that its real and true... because dont kid yourselves, there was nothing good, and there still is nothing good about it... appreciate the music that we have now... unearth... yes does shred, and mvery very much so... i consider them to be at leaset in a creative in symbolic way... very very much hardcore... those guys will knock you on your ass.... i think the music scene needs to redefine its terms and lines, because kids now-a-days are becoming desensitized to new, good music, because theyre stuck on TRYING to be oldschool hxc, when its dead, and its never coming back... it's like disco in that sense.... but yes... unearth = metalcore, so does as i lay dying, i understand mah terms here, i needed to get your attention tho :) so i figured id say something that would most def. spark controversy... my point... though it may be a bit moot or irrelevant in everyone elses eyes, is that hardcore ebbs, and flows, oldschool hxc, post hardcore, emo-core metal core, even modern metal, they all base their roots in the same sub culture of kids who just want to have fun, they have the same beginnings, lets just quit with all the dumb label crap, kids cling to this **** too tightly... "oldschool" hxc'ers start **** with the new generation when the truth is we can't afford it... not with the direction the scene is heading as of late... if we war then we are destined to fail... hardcore has too many outside enemies as it is... that being said... much love, hxc for life.

David Frost 09-16-2005 08:03 AM

you **** on good music, and say that unearth is good...


you are deaf. listen to Lords and shutup

All_Nite_Dinah 09-16-2005 10:43 AM

Im not "desensatized to good music" I just know bands like terror and unearth are lame trendy metal core bands.

All_Nite_Dinah 09-16-2005 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealXenWarrior
lets just quit with all the dumb label crap, kids cling to this **** too tightly... "oldschool" hxc'ers start **** with the new generation when the truth is we can't afford it... not with the direction the scene is heading as of late... if we war then we are destined to fail... hardcore has too many outside enemies as it is... that being said... much love, hxc for life.

YOUR HILARIOUS!!

RealXenWarrior 09-19-2005 08:22 AM

yes... yes i am.... and i also know that terror, isnt metal core ****face... i woulda figured *******s like you would even know that one... that being said lick my stick you twat :)

daytonasurf 09-19-2005 09:54 AM

In my eyes
modern life is war
stretch armstrong
bane
comeback kid
with honor
ignite
raised fist
champion
american nightmare

xfourstarfailurex 04-26-2006 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DidierD
can u describe 'real' hardcore?

SICK OF IT ALL
AGNOSTIC FRONT
BLOOD FOR BLOOD
MURPHYS LAW
GORLLIA BISCUTS
CRO-MAGS
INTEGRITY
UNBORKEN
UNDERTOW
TRAGEDY

sleepy jack 04-26-2006 08:47 AM

Agnostic Front blow. Gorilla Biscuits, From Ashes Rise and Tragedy are good though.

White Lies 04-26-2006 01:52 PM

80s hardcore is my favorite genre of music. I listen to some modern hardcore, but not a lot.

Oh, and I don't like Sick of it All. Shoot me.

hiu 04-26-2006 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xfourstarfailurex
SICK OF IT ALL
AGNOSTIC FRONT
BLOOD FOR BLOOD
MURPHYS LAW
GORLLIA BISCUTS
CRO-MAGS
INTEGRITY
UNBORKEN
UNDERTOW
TRAGEDY

Ugh, another fan of late 80s New York Hardcore. Why can't people check out something other than DC, New York or CA hardcore.

White Lies 04-26-2006 03:42 PM

Texas had a great hardcore scene. Very underrated compared to the big 3.

hiu 04-26-2006 03:48 PM

Everyone should know Texas along with Florida were amazing areas for hardcore during the early 80s, even better than LA and Boston etc. Personally I think most New York hardcore is pretty bad.

Slowhand 04-26-2006 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealXenWarrior
yes... yes i am.... and i also know that terror, isnt metal core ****face... i woulda figured *******s like you would even know that one... that being said lick my stick you twat :)

Asterisk you too, asteriskhole.

sleepy jack 04-26-2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hiu
Ugh, another fan of late 80s New York Hardcore. Why can't people check out something other than DC, New York or CA hardcore.

Like what?

Anyway hardcore (not including emo or metalcore) I listen to, Between The Wars, Gang Green, From Ashes Rise, Gorilla Biscuits, American Nightmare/Give Up The Ghost, Good Clean Fun, Carry On, Refused, Comeback Kid, Stretch Arm Strong, Circle Jerks, Youth Of Today, and Teen Idles.

Muzak 04-26-2006 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
Unearth shreds. face it. but they aren't hardcore.

They are Metal!:bringit:

hiu 04-26-2006 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crowquill
Like what?

Anyway hardcore (not including emo or metalcore) I listen to, Between The Wars, Gang Green, From Ashes Rise, Gorilla Biscuits, American Nightmare/Give Up The Ghost, Good Clean Fun, Carry On, Refused, Comeback Kid, Stretch Arm Strong, Circle Jerks, Youth Of Today, and Teen Idles.

Texas bands like The Dicks, Big Boys, The Hates, Verbal Abuse, Cringe. Florida is good too, like Hated Youth, Roach Motel, No Fraud and The Eat et cetera. Quite a few of those bands are among my favourite hardcore bands.

I have to admit though LA is up there too, lots of great bands from LA.

Decoy 04-26-2006 09:10 PM

Bane
The Number 12 Looks Like You
Genghis Tron
Job For A Cowboy

~nutshell~ 04-27-2006 05:38 PM

I LOVE Gorilla Biscuits...YOuth of Today, all that old hardcore sh*t

kujo 04-27-2006 11:54 PM

what about Some Girls, Swing Kids, Orchid, The Locust, Heroin i consider that real hardcore

MURDER JUNKIE 04-28-2006 12:02 AM

I am going to see 7 Seconds and Gorilla Biscuits in August http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...fast_mosh3.gif

White Lies 04-28-2006 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
I am going to see 7 Seconds and Gorilla Biscuits in August http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f3...fast_mosh3.gif

Oh man, what a show that's gonna be. I must see Gorilla Biscuits on this tour.

riseagainstrocks 04-28-2006 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decoy
Bane
The Number 12 Looks Like You
Genghis Tron
Job For A Cowboy

Bane is the only one I'd consider "hardcore" but the others aren't bad at all. Genghis Tron is awesome.


anyone like Modern Life Is War? I'm seeing them June 12th with Bane and Outbreak. gonna be tight

xfourstarfailurex 04-28-2006 08:50 AM

you should really check out
Death Before Dishonor


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