Greatest Post Punk Album
 

I recently got into an argument with a friend who claims Closer to be the great post punk album of all time.

I am a huge fan of Closer, definitely one of my favorites, but I dont know about it being the best.

My vote would probably have to go to The freshman Cocteau Twins release, Garlands. While Cocteau Twins are far more known for their dreampop, they began as one of the greatest post punk acts around. While the argument that this album is directly influenced by Closer stands strong, when actually judging the quality of an album, I don't thin influence should be such a big factor.

Besides Garlands, I also think that Psychocandy by Jesus and Mary Chain is capable of knocking Closer off of its throne, and if the Swans could be considered Post Punk, than they also have some albums that post a challenge.

Anyway, I made this thread to get your opinion. Which do you think is better of the two(If you have heard them both), and also, if neither of them, what album do you think deserves to be crowned king(or queen) of Post Punk?

Are we limiting ourselves to British post-punk?

P.I.L. - Metal Box

I win

No way. Its just mostly what I am familiar with.

Violent Femmes S/T is one of the better non-british post-punk albums. Daydream Nation by Sonic Youth is one of the most influential alt rock albums ever made IMO.

I could go a lot of different routes here.

i don't either

i really never quite got the grips with all these post-(something) tags

post-rock, post-metal, post-hardcore - i don't find any underlying unifying sound or format

Well post-rock is the use of standard rock instrumentation to create more ambient, meandering, textural pieces.

Post-punk I think is less about a sound and more about an idea, so it's a broader blanket covering more dissimilar artists.

Post punk bands usually have attitude, or darkness, but a more accessible musical sound than punk.

Garlands is one of the greatest albums known to man!

Pere Ubu's 'modern dance'
Magazine's 'real life'
Gang of four's 'entertainment'
Rip rig and panic's 'God'
PIL's 'flowers of romances'
Killing Joke's self-titled
Simple Minds' 'reel to real cacophony'
The Fall's 'grotesque'
The Pop Group's 'Y'
Adam and the Ants' 'dirk wears white sox'