Babes In Toyland -- better than Nirvana
 

To me, Babes In Toyland were/are the band that defined "grunge" music.
If Jann Wenner and MTV had any balls, they would have built BIT into the legendary slot that Nirvana now occupies. Truth be told, they felt music wasn't ready for an all-female band that kicked butt. Instead, they propped Nirvana up and killed Kurt Cobain by doing so.

Those wanting proof of the true power of Babes In Toyland need only listen to their best work "Fontanelle." Which kicks "Nevermind" into the dirt and leaves it crumpled in the dust.
"Bruise Violet" is meaner and uglier than anything on "Nevermind." Guitarist and vocalist Kat Bjelland has the voice and snarl that Kurt Cobain wished he had.

While Nirvana is long dead, Babes In Toyland are back after almost two decades. They played at the Roxy in Los Angeles on Thursday, Feb. 12, meaner and grittier than ever. If BIT decides to tour, a new generation has the chance to rectify past injustices.
I was privileged enough to see BIT a couple of times in the 90's. Few bands of that era could match them in intensity. I saw them open for Dinosaur Jr. once and blow them off the stage and into a back alley.

It just ain't doing it for me.

Nirvana >

Bold statement.



So this is the song that shames Nevermind?

It sounds like a Melvins or L7 track. it is good i'll give you that but imo is not better than Nirvana.

This is something Nirvana would've done in Bleach but outgrew in their way to In Utero.

never got into them personally, always just seemed an average band with no real depth to them other than "look girls can thrash a guitar too"

My thoughts exactly! I saw them in the early 90's and I also saw Nirvana a couple of times back then and I wouldn't rate Babes in Toyland better than a 3 out of 10. I thought they were rather awful to be honest. :laughing:

Huh? What propped Nirvana up so much that Rolling Stone and MTV had no choice but to jump on the band wagon were the great songs on Nevermind. Teen Spirit being the one that took the country by a storm.

I don't know if Nirvana deserves it, but that is how history has it. I guess because Hair Metal ran it's course and became so trite no one could bear it any more it was possible any band could be the next new thing. There were a lot of good bands in the 80s, and early 90s. But for whatever reason Nirvana was prompt up as thē band. I don't mind Nirvana, but I don't think they were not the end all be all of Alternative-Rock. I never felt the necessity to buy a Nirvana CD, even now I'm not so compelled to listen to album online for free.

is that right

If they defined grunge music, why is this the first time i've heard of them? Please don't tell me the OP thinks these guys are up to par with the likes of Nirvana, Soundgarden, etc etc.

If they defined, then why don't they sound like the essence of grunge