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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2224307)

Yeah I wouldn't use Twitter follows as a metric either. I follow some fashy types too just so I can heckle them and their fans in the replies. Why just yesterday I made fun of Jackson Hinckle's shoes and I think it brought us that much closer to the revolution.

But I stopped watching Punk Rock MBA's videos cause he seemed like a basic bitch. Like, he seems to think DIY is supposed to be an individualist boot straps concept and that is painfully lame. He did get me on to slam death metal though so it wasn't a total waste of my time.

I get that, I have a friend who follows right wingers just to dunk on them, but I feel like his twitter follows plus his general "fiscal conserative"ness, his wife's channel, and even I'm pretty sure I saw some text screenshots where he praises Blaire White, it all just makes me uncomfortable.

No judgement on people who enjoy his videos for the content, but I don't think that content is enjoyable enough to overlook the skeevy **** and continue following him.

But yeah, speaking as a slam enthusiast since 2008 I think he definitely greatly increased the exposure for that genre and that's pretty cool.

Oh how you feel about Russian slam? Cause Katalepsy and Abominable Putridity are way different from standard slam but I think they crossover with brutal DM in a way that makes for the most immediate and crushing death metal maybe ever without having to just be lightning in a bottle like None So Vile.

I like both of those bands! I was actually first introduced to slam as a whole by some really old youtube poop video that used an Abominable Putridity song, haha. It is a pretty different vibe than a lot of traditional slam, but I do dig that style a lot as well.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3 (Post 2224344)

I will say one red flag I caught before Booboo gave me the intel was that he was talking about some band (don't remember which) and he goes "Oh they're GOATed...like Blink, and Pantera." and I thought "that sounds like a 14 year old picking 'the best rock bands' by just picking bands they know.

He made a "dad rock" tier list where he ranked Creed above Queens of the Stone Age.

I rest my case.

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Originally Posted by Queen Boo (Post 2224372)

He made a "dad rock" tier list where he ranked Creed above Queens of the Stone Age.

I rest my case.

As a better band or a more dad-rock band?

As a better band.

He also thinks Converge are a dad rock band for some reason. The term "dad rock" has become completely meaningless, it could mean literally any rock band that existed before 2008.

Creed is super ass, but I struggle because I think Mark Tremonti is a great player.

I like My Own Prison but that's it.

Higher does make me a little nostalgic for the early 00s despite it being an objectively terrible song, it brings back warm fuzzy memories of seeing that trailer for Titan A.E. in movie theaters. :laughing:

"What If?" slaps but everything else has lost whatever amount of charm it might have had.

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 2224681)

alright my response has nothing to do with the video

indie becomes a genre with The Smiths

they were the fresh reintroduction of guitar back into music after synths began to dominate the airwaves

they were not the 1st jangle pop band, but they were the group that defined indie as a distinct genre rather than a DIY distribution model

the indie sound really hasn't changed since they popularized it, favoring folk and 60s girl pop to any kind of blues based heavy bend music

naturally indie goes commercial when The Smiths (move to) sign to a major label, that is why one can still play "indie music" and not be the slightest bit indie in other ways

You're an R.E.M. hater, aren't you?