Look, you have to be into hardcore to be straight edge, but you don't have to be straight edge to be into hardcore, you guys just don't understand what it's like here, I'm not trying to make myself seem better then you, but its one of those things you have to be there for. There are so many misconceptions about straight edge because people look for a place to fit in or, want a title to give themselves , so they call themselves straight edge, preach hard as **** , then sell out after a few years.

BTW that's pretty funny "dom" means stupid

"You just had to be there" isn't what I consider an acceptable statement on your subject. I think we're all as equally informed about the topic as we were before you made the thread.

This does, however, still reveal plenty about you. Hence, introductions!

Yea well I made this thread to answer serious questions, not to have people try and tear straight edge apart.

And will you give up with the introductions thing , I'm not sure if you're joking or being serious.

I think it's pretty clear we know what straight edge is.

Don't get me wrong I'm not saying people shouldn't be straight-edge, that's their lifestyle choice and I can respect that. But I basically view straight-edge the same way as I view organised religions such as Christianity, the ideals twist and change over time so that the original ideals are distorted and you are left wondering what is the exact meaning of it all, does it actually mean anything in the end or is it just some crazy idea that one guy had and it grew and grew into something else? It could all amount to just nothing in the end.

You may think you do ,but I'm almost positive you don't. ya know what, I'm done. you guys can continue to listen to the music , I'll continue to live it.

Yeah. Good riddens. We won't miss you.

The whole thing has gotten messed up over the years, to the point where its barely recognizable now, If you get the chance or even give a **** , look up this song called "can we start again" by Bane.

I know I do, one of my exfiancees is now straight edge. When you can kick a junk addiction/meat& all other animal products/cigarettes all cold turkey, with a mental illness like he did, then I'll be impressed. And I don't listen to hardcore, why am I going to listen to music I don't relate to?

Let me get this straight (edge).
You say 'people don't understand what straight edge is'
We say 'well explain'
You say 'it's not what you think it is'
We say 'we think we do'
You say 'you don't, now piss off'

This is not... practical, is it?
I've seen no explanation, all you're saying is that we don't understand :D
It's pretty amusing, but I was genuinely interested in what you meant and it seems there's not more than... what you say. What is there not to understand?