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blastingas10 01-07-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1140783)
I'm sorry blaster, the particular part concerning the open string is not on the DVD. Ive read it somewhere or seen on a different video, I just cant remember to be honest. Sometimes I acquire so much different information concerning so many different artist, I often get my wires crossed. :laughing:

The part of the Clapton/Johnson DVD I was actually referring to, is right at the beginning of session III. When Clapton states "Its almost like notes being picked" "But it cant be, its to fast".

Sorry for the misinterpretation blaster.

Haha no worries, man.

thespins 01-12-2012 08:31 AM

Just checking Robert Johnson out for the first time. I'm liking what I am hearing so far!

TheGreys 02-19-2012 07:39 AM

What a man of talent

Garrett 05-08-2012 08:00 AM


Howard the Duck 05-08-2012 10:38 AM

as yet again

the question doth beggeth

what's there not to appreciate?

the man was a virtuoso and basically invented rock as we know it

Chives 05-23-2012 07:36 PM

I was really skeptical when I first heard about Robert Johnson. I mean, it felt like a few famous guitar players preached about him so everybody just followed suit. I was so very wrong! That guitar playing...and that voice kills me! I should have listened to em sooner.

A side note, I think that my copy of his Complete Recordings box is the most expensive vinyl album I've bought so far. Not that it was THAT much...I just don't buy a lot of expensive stuff.

blastingas10 05-24-2012 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Chives (Post 1191949)
I was really skeptical when I first heard about Robert Johnson. I mean, it felt like a few famous guitar players preached about him so everybody just followed suit. I was so very wrong! That guitar playing...and that voice kills me! I should have listened to em sooner.

A side note, I think that my copy of his Complete Recordings box is the most expensive vinyl album I've bought so far. Not that it was THAT much...I just don't buy a lot of expensive stuff.

It's not original is it? If it was I bet it was THAT expensive.

Chives 05-25-2012 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1192147)
It's not original is it? If it was I bet it was THAT expensive.

I've never thought to check because for the amount of music I was getting it seemed worth it. I mean, it's not one of the 2-LP reissues that I see around these days. Its a 3-LP box with booklets and ad inserts. It was around 50 bucks because I got during a used vinyl sale (they originally wanted 100). So I guess it's original. It has been worth every penny, regardless.

blastingas10 05-25-2012 12:40 PM

I doubt it's original if it came with booklets and inserts. Those things are pretty much impossible to find. More so than any rare Beatles album.

Chives 05-25-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1192505)
I doubt it's original if it came with booklets and inserts. Those things are pretty much impossible to find. More so than any rare Beatles album.

Haha if they are that rare than yeah I'm sure it's not. I think I prefer it not to be , though, since I don't need to feel guilty when I go and play it. Keep it cheap, keep it simple. Regardless, it's an awesome set.

So is it true there has been another alternate take unearthed since that collection? I put minimal effort to find info about it upon overheard somebody talk about it at a record store, but I couldn't find any. Like, what's it an alternate take of?

blastingas10 05-25-2012 06:17 PM

I haven't heard anything about this alternate take. I know he has alternate takes of a bunch of his songs, is that what you're talking about?

And ya, I ltd be great if you had an original. I have no idea what that would be worth. A LOT. Is it really heavy, More so than more modern records? Really old records are noticeably heavier than newer ones, and by newer I mean even originals from the sixties.

Howard the Duck 05-25-2012 07:46 PM

^^The Complete Recordings has all the original "singles" plus alternate takes

Garrett 05-26-2012 06:44 AM

Robert Johnson`s Collection can be found here.

Robert Johnson | Official Robert Johnson Site | Robert Johnson Blues Foundation

Chives 05-26-2012 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1192624)
And ya, I ltd be great if you had an original. I have no idea what that would be worth. A LOT. Is it really heavy, More so than more modern records? Really old records are noticeably heavier than newer ones, and by newer I mean even originals from the sixties.

I think I see where the confusion is here. I thought you meant an original pressing of the 1990 boxset I got, while you obviously mean just one of his originally released 78s, right? For some reason I didn't catch that.

And what I meant was that outside of the currently released 41 recordings that another one had been unearthed at some point. But I know nothing and maybe that was just hear-say.

I starting listening to Rory Block (she was mentioned a good number of pages back for her Robert Johnson covers). She seems very great to me so far.

moserw 08-17-2012 02:06 AM

I was introduced to him a few years back by a friend. Have collected The Complete Recordings since then.

Awesome guitar work... though the lyrics/theme are a tad too dark for my liking.

blastingas10 08-17-2012 03:36 PM

He sold his soul to the devil, what do you expect? :laughing:

He mentions beating his woman a few times

Howard the Duck 08-18-2012 02:38 AM

^^that's what he alleged

who knows?

blastingas10 08-18-2012 08:47 AM

I was just kidding. Maybe he did sell his soul, who knows.

warrenjones888 08-25-2012 02:02 PM

He is a Legend
 
Amzing artist I must say

Necromancer 08-25-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1220103)
I was just kidding. Maybe he did sell his soul, who knows.

The best explanation Ive heard before, is that Johnson was simply using the claim of selling his soul to the devil in order to disguise his true genius as an artist.

blastingas10 08-26-2012 03:42 AM

I don't actually believe it. But ****, maybe He knew something we didn't.

Necromancer 08-26-2012 06:16 PM

Well I am sure that alot of people did actually dabble in voo doo back in the 30s, especially in the deep south. And most crossroads were notorious places for mischief back then. It must have been a spooky place to be at night.

blastingas10 08-27-2012 08:09 AM

I've heard that he used to practice in graveyards at night. I believe I heard that on the documentary about him hosted by John Hammond.

Howard the Duck 08-27-2012 08:25 AM

i think Screaming Jay Hawkins was more into that voodoo **** than any other musician

Janszoon 08-27-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1224041)
i think Screaming Jay Hawkins was more into that voodoo **** than any other musician

Please tell me you're joking.

Please tell me all of the horribly misinformed comments about Voodoo in past few posts have been jokes.

Howard the Duck 08-27-2012 08:59 AM

^^and what would be an informed opinion?

Janszoon 08-27-2012 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1224051)
^^and what would be an informed opinion?

That Voodoo is a hybrid religion of west African Vodun and Christianity which has nothing to do with selling your soul to the devil. And that Screamin' Jay Hawkins dressing up in campy costumes doesn't make him a practitioner of that religion any more than Sunn0))) dressing up in robes makes them druid priests.

duga 08-27-2012 10:11 AM

Hahaha... Yeah, blues has virtually nothing to do with voodoo. If there was any selling of souls going on, it was to the Christian devil.

Necromancer 08-27-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1224053)
That Voodoo is a hybrid religion of west African Vodun and Christianity which has nothing to do with selling your soul to the devil. And that Screamin' Jay Hawkins dressing up in campy costumes doesn't make him a practitioner of that religion any more than Sunn0))) dressing up in robes makes them druid priests.

What does your wiki post have to do with Robert Johnson, or the culture concerning the southern states during the 30s? Are you drinking while on the job again Janszoon?

Janszoon 08-27-2012 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer (Post 1224074)
What does your wiki post have to do with Robert Johnson, or the culture concerning the southern states during the 30s? Are you drinking while on the job again Janszoon?

Er... what? You brought up Voodoo, I was just responding to the ignorant comments. And how is that a "wiki post" out of curiosity?

duga 08-27-2012 10:31 AM

I think he was emphasizing that Robert Johnson didn't practice voodoo.

Janszoon 08-27-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1224079)
I think he was emphasizing that Robert Johnson didn't practice voodoo.

How so?

duga 08-27-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1224080)
How so?

That's what I got from it.

Either way...he didn't.

Janszoon 08-27-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1224094)
That's what I got from it.

Either way...he didn't.

And if he did, it would have had no connection to the whole "devil at the crossroads" myth.

duga 08-27-2012 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1224095)
And if he did, it would have had no connection to the whole "devil at the crossroads" myth.

Exactly.

Janszoon 08-27-2012 11:12 AM

Has anyone else listened to the Radiolab podcast about Robert Johnson? It's pretty interesting, and as always with them, very well presented. Definitely worth a listen if you enjoy a good and informative story.

blastingas10 08-27-2012 11:51 AM

Voodoo was really only mentioned once. Not much was said about it.

Janszoon 08-27-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1224125)
Voodoo was really only mentioned once. Not much was said about it.

It was mentioned in the context of selling one's soul to the devil, and then again in a claim that Screamin' Jay Hawkins was a practitioner, presumably because he used to dress in a campy way that was arguably inspired by American stereotypes about Voodoo. And all I said was I hoped those comments were jokes.

blastingas10 08-27-2012 12:06 PM

I see. Well maybe dr. John is a practitioner of voodoo as well. :laughing:

Janszoon 08-27-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1224128)
I see. Well maybe dr. John is a practitioner of voodoo as well. :laughing:

Sure. And maybe Peter Criss is a cat.


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