Music Banter - The Led Zeppelin Blues

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Originally Posted by The Wild Man (Post 578676)

I watched Vh1's "Greatest Hard Rock Songs". It was insulting to find Led Zeppelin on that list. Aren't they really a blues band? Well, an experimental blues band. Isn't Robert Plant purely a blues singer? Jimmy Page in his respects also.

Some of the blues community dislikes Zep because they ripped off old lyrics from Willie Dixon or Robert Johnson. Some of the blues community though feels Zep was a whole new era in blues music. It would only benefit the blues clame Led Zeppelin.

How do you feel about the matter?

Try listening to more than just their first two albums.

They have a lot of blues influence, so do many rock bands that I wouldn't actually call blues bands, Zep have very diverse influences and blues is just part of it, they're certainly hard rock.

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 578797)

I personally think that Jeff Beck's Beck-Ola blows Zeppelin out of the water. Certainly in terms of guitar work.

Blow by Blow was amazing, too, even though alot of those songs are covers...

Cause We Ended As Lovers is one of the most amazing songs I have ever heard, personally. Nice to see some people can do a justice to a cover...

A point worth mentioning here could also be that hard rock relates more closely to blues than what some (the OP at least) may be aware of.

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Originally Posted by From Wikipedia's article on Hard Rock

Hard rock is strongly influenced by blues music; the most frequently used scale in hard rock is the pentatonic, which is a typical blues scale.[1] Unlike traditional rock and roll (which takes elements of the "old" blues), hard rock incorporates elements of "British blues", a style of blues played with more modern instruments such as electric guitars, drums, keyboards and electric bass. A notable departure from traditional blues forms is that hard rock is seldom restricted to the I, IV, and V chords prevalent in twelve or sixteen bar blues, but includes other chords, typically major chords rooted on tones of the minor scale.

I think the main styling of Led Zep's initial work is more rhythm and blues (the original R'n'B) which is where the variations of guitar playing and vocals allowed the band to develop. I think they definitely are a band with blues roots, In My Time of Dying is a classic blues song and they recorded that pretty late in their career. I saw Robert Plant a few years back and he covered a Muddy Waters song perfectly and demonstrated how the standard blues riff from that evolved into Whole Lotta Love. One of the joys of Led Zeppelin is that the DO shift from hardrock to blues, to Celtic oddness. To tie yourself down in any one genre lacks artistic strength

If I was still a moderator I'd delete this thread.

Zeppelin invented hard rock as a mainstream form of music any other opinion ignores the facts

Yeah 2000 posts!

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Originally Posted by jazzrocks (Post 578786)

Led Zeppelin first two albums have many tracks that are blatant rip-offs of other people songs. What I mean they took whole lyrics and structures of other’s people songs like “Dazed and Confused” and “Whole Lotta Love” from other songs. They did a great job the problem is that they did not give songwriting credits to those songs. That being said they did not invent Hard Rock or anything really but they are the standard Hard Rock bands are compared to.

the truth is the truth. and the truth is right there in above quote. jimmy page is the most prolific guitarist in his time, appearing on more vynil than any other, especially as a session guy. that said, he is also the biggest plagarist that ever lived, and largely seems to have gotten away with it. i do love their music, it is great. but much of it was borrowed, uncredited, from others. a little research would bear this out, i won't bother posting the many examples.

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Originally Posted by JayJamJah (Post 659722)

If I was still a moderator I'd delete this thread.

Zeppelin invented hard rock as a mainstream form of music any other opinion ignores the facts

Yeah 2000 posts!

the most important fact suggested by your post seems to be how fortunate the rest of us are that you are no longer a mod.

theres no denying that Led Zepplin is probably one of the best guitarists of his time... he had soul in his music...
but he was mixed... he has a classical rock genre inbetween blues

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Originally Posted by lightStevOo (Post 675459)

theres no denying that Led Zepplin is probably one of the best guitarists of his time... he had soul in his music...
but he was mixed... he has a classical rock genre inbetween blues

Him and Jethro Tull(the best flautist of all time) should start a super-group togeher.

I would call them a bluesy hard rock band or even a blues rock band, but I wouldn't call them a blues band.

Led Zepplin, was a great band. Awsome at playing the blues, but they were a versitale unit, they played folk, rock n roll, hard rock and so on.... So you could not really class them as a blues act or band.

my 2 cents.