Yep, in that sense it's really the opposite of classical music, despite some structural similarities sometimes emerging.

But birdsong is definitely jazz and hip hop is definitely ragtime, though.

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Yes, birdsong is definitely jazz:-



.... and Jazz is Voodoo:-



... or at least I wish it was, but too often it leaves all the zombies, herbs and bullfrogs behind.

Jazz is..........Jazz........

And It's dying, its dying, it's dying on a vine, and the world said let it die, it had its time. Well, not on my watch.

Dude should've kept with the times instead of staying chained to the 50s, but that would mean liking jazz and being original at the same time and you can only do one in LA.

Music doesn't die, people do

They're loosely related, just like with any other genre or sub-genre. Classical music is usually much more disciplined, I picture an orchestra with their instruments and composition sheets in front of them. Jazz is more the kind of music that you'd hear at a bar in New Orleans back in the early 20th century, much looser.

To me it is not either. Jazz is it's own category. Inside of jazz is other categories: Blues, bluegrass, swing, ragtime, some latin, and some ballads. Now a days there is overlap between jazz and pop. I can see the confusion of classical because there is classical jazz.