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jibber 01-25-2006 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
that is the way I see it as well, perhaps we should have covered this in our first conversations to establish some common ground

true, although, if I'm being completely honest, I don't see how this government will be any more productive than the last. The campaigns themselves were such gong shows, each side slinging just as much sh*t at the other. Harper does not seem to be a man who will compromise easily, so it will be very interesting to watch the progression of this new government.

MURDER JUNKIE 01-25-2006 10:46 PM

It is the same basis for any government: HOPE

jibber 01-25-2006 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
It is the same basis for any government: HOPE

good point. I'm gonna hold my tounge and hope for the best with the federal government. I hold no such claims for klein's administration though. Apart from doing well for alberta financially (which is not that great of an acheivment, with all the money from oil we have, it's almost as if it's running on auto-pilot). The healthcare and education system is undoubtedly better in ontario than it is here. Just today there was a huge news story about an 83 year old woman left lying on a guerny in the middle of the hallway in the hospital because there wasn't enough beds. A few years ago the hospital with the bussiest trauma center in the city by far was imploded, for no apparent reason, just a lot of vague and dismissive explanations that "we didn't need it". nice going klein, incompetent f*cktard.

MURDER JUNKIE 01-25-2006 10:59 PM

^I'm sorry about that, again I am afraid that I am pretty ignorant to what goes on in Alberta. It is sad but I know more about what is going on in Michigan than other provinces

half_baked87 01-25-2006 11:05 PM

IMO there was no good choice in this election. i am glad the liberals are ousted, but i'm none too happy about the conservatives in power either. frankly, i voted green party, solely because none of the other parties represented me, either does the green party but its the best i could do. about growing closer to the united states, i dont see the problem with it. economically its a positive step. the only issue i'm concerned about is americanisation and social change that might be an effect of closer ties. i don't want to lose what shred of diversity we have left. also, harpers proposal to have a free vote in the house of commons about a womans right to choose is complete and utter bull****. i dont understand the reason for unearthing the issue again, you can't please everyone no matter that outcome. but point is we needed a change, and we got one. no more criminals, well, at least no more criminals that got caught. but give it a few years

jibber 01-25-2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
^I'm sorry about that, again I am afraid that I am pretty ignorant to what goes on in Alberta. It is sad but I know more about what is going on in Michigan than other provinces

no worries, i'll explain the situation briefly, mind you, my views on it will have a HUGE anti conservative bias, but still, the facts speak for themselves.

Alberta is the only province in canada that actually had a budget surplus, which is nice, except klein is letting it go to waste. We're by far the richest province in canada, and yet university fees this year went up by 6%. He blew up the bussiest hospital in the city, and the health care system has been in absolute dire condition ever since, I think i've given enough examples to make that situation quite clear. Now, instead of improving the health care system, or helping out university students, he decided to give every albertan $400. I know most of you probably think i'm a spoiled brat for complaining about this, but it's absolutely useless. It's f*cking easy to get a job in alberta, we don't need $400 from the government. That money would be FAR better used improving our hospitals. Putting even HALF that money into health care would help. I guess I shouldn't be surprised about any of this, you can't expect a high shcool drop out to be sympathetic towards students looking for a higher education.

MURDER JUNKIE 01-25-2006 11:11 PM

that is when you can tell an election is near: you start getting cheques and rebates from the government. Gratuitous vote buying

jibber 01-25-2006 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by MURDER JUNKIE
that is when you can tell an election is near: you start getting cheques and rebates from the government. Gratuitous vote buying

no kidding. the only reason I'm living here is because I'm going to school here. I realize that it's the easiest province to live in, and I know that my financial situation will be a hell of a lot better if I continue living here, but I definitely don't fit in here.

MURDER JUNKIE 01-25-2006 11:30 PM

Where is the alternative?

jibber 01-25-2006 11:33 PM

^so far the plan is BC, but that's only because of the good skiing. Incredibly fickle reason I know, but what can I say, I have a one-track-mind. although, I can't really make any kind of decision right now, seeing as how I most likely won't settle down anywhere for years yet.


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