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cardboard adolescent 01-18-2007 04:39 PM

Hypnotism is bull**** anyway, so as far as I'm concerned there's no difference between consenting while hypnotized and consenting regularly.

right-track 01-18-2007 04:42 PM

No it's not...I've been hypnotised.

If your not in your natural frame of mind,

ie; psychotic...your not responsible for your actions. Surely?

adidasss 01-18-2007 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 326418)
No it's not...I've been hypnotised.

You're kidding right?

right-track 01-18-2007 04:45 PM

Nope.

swim 01-18-2007 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 326418)
No it's not...I've been hypnotised.

If your not in your natural frame of mind,

ie; psychotic...your not responsible for your actions. Surely?

but with that logic then if you can be drunk, say yes, and it be considered rape. It was your choice to be hypnotized. It was your choice to drink.

right-track 01-18-2007 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow (Post 326421)
but with that logic then if you can be drunk, say yes, and it be considered rape. It was your choice to be hypnotized. It was your choice to drink.

It's true that if you don't want to be hypnotised (as far as i am aware) then you can't be made to go under.

However, if your hypnotised under false pretenses, lets say for arguments sake, that it was for therapy and were then raped or abused while under deep hypnosis, then where's the choice?

adidasss 01-18-2007 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by right-track (Post 326420)
Nope.

Oh C'MON!! There is no fucking way anyone can get hypnotized and I will fight you on this to the last breath. How can a man such as yourself allow himself to get under the influence of another and (supposedly) not be in control of his actions?? NO fucking way...

swim 01-18-2007 04:54 PM

The only thing is that while you were having sex you were fine with it and that kind of puts a barrier for me of how you can consider it rape. Because it is a different mind set.

edit: And would the same apply for trauma and being used? If at the time of an odd mindset you consented, got over the situation and, realized you wouldn't have normally done it.

right-track 01-18-2007 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by adidasss (Post 326424)
Oh C'MON!! There is no fucking way anyone can get hypnotized and I will fight you on this to the last breath. How can a man such as yourself allow himself to get under the influence of another and (supposedly) not be in control of his actions?? NO fucking way...

You can if you allow yourself to be.
I can do it to myself...not in a long time though.

As for not being able to do anything to help yourself while hypnotised...I admit I wouldn't know for sure as I've never been in that situation.

Edit: Hahaha ...do you think I was hypnotised and abused?

Numpty's :laughing:

adidasss 01-18-2007 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by swimintheundertow (Post 326421)
but with that logic then if you can be drunk, say yes, and it be considered rape. It was your choice to be hypnotized. It was your choice to drink.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimintheundertow (Post 326425)
The only thing is that while you were having sex you were fine with it and that kind of puts a barrier for me of how you can consider it rape. Because it is a different mind set.

You surprise me, being a woman and all I would have thought you'd be more sensitized to the issue of rape. Even if one is under the influence, no means no to use the tired old cliche. If you're not able to fully control your actions, if you're not in full mental capacity, you're not guilty of anything, which is why it's considered an extenuating circumstance for various offenses.


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