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Old 03-14-2007, 06:23 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'd pay for it because ****, everyone needs to get laid at least once, as long as the package I was buying didn't come with AIDS or HERPEGHONOCRABS or some ****. Because I'd rather live long as a virgin than die young because of the AIDS or walk around spewing anal leakage all over the place.
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:33 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I don't hold ideals for others: I hold them for myself. I am not afraid of flaws: I identify them, and strive to work on them. I don't live by a moral code in order to be recognized: I live by it to fulfill myself, and make the world a better place. Discipline is not weakness: that is something the undisciplined say. If the entire world listened to your rhetoric, people would be running around raping, stealing, and killing. That is not an exaggeration: some people want to do those things. The way I have chosen to live my life is not ignorant: the way you have resigned to live yours is disappointing.
Or have they taught to think that you're free and we're all in the jail cell?

Look, Discipline is just dandy, but I get the feeling you're resisting things you've never tried. How old are you, by the way?

Well if you're going to call me Disappointing, we're going to have to compare lives, because if I can go out every night and get wasted, wake up and function at a normal hour, achieve more and do it all again, who is the real disappointment here. I mean, what exactly do you achieve with your discipline?

As for the UsedTool, you're right, not living in fear means we'd all go rape everyone, quit being so Hobbsian and operate with common sense, hypotheticals are useful until you get absurd.
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Or have they taught to think that you're free and we're all in the jail cell?

Look, Discipline is just dandy, but I get the feeling you're resisting things you've never tried. How old are you, by the way?

Well if you're going to call me Disappointing, we're going to have to compare lives, because if I can go out every night and get wasted, wake up and function at a normal hour, achieve more and do it all again, who is the real disappointment here. I mean, what exactly do you achieve with your discipline?

As for the UsedTool, you're right, not living in fear means we'd all go rape everyone, quit being so Hobbsian and operate with common sense, hypotheticals are useful until you get absurd.
I never said you were disappointing, I said the path you've chosen is. People who waste their time getting '****ed up' are squandering the potential they have to be great. I am only seventeen, yet I accomplish a lot with my discipline: I devote my time to school and work, hobbies and friends. I have a 4.6 GPA; I work roughly 20 hours a week, and save the majority of my earnings rather than spend them on drugs or whatnot; I bolster my relationships, and chill with friends, without indulging in drugs, alcohol, or tobacco. In my remaining spare time I fool around with Fruity Loops, and have produced thirty-odd original songs. However, my proudest achievement thus far is the receiving of a 30K scholarship to Emerson College in Boston for Audio Production/Sound Design, which I hope will help me achieve my dreams of being a record producer and owning a label someday. I am the top ranked player on my server in Day of Defeat, a highly competitive, skill based online FPS.

These 'accomplishments' may seem trivial to you; but they are not to me. Besides, I am seventeen: I have my whole life in front of me--something which drugs, alcohol, tobacco, and even promiscuity could compromise. Fulfillment is far more important than accomplishment, anyway.

Ultimately, I enjoy life to the fullest extent, without the use of drugs, alcohol, or tobacco; I don't need them to feel alive, or to appreciate the sunset, or to ease my anxious mind. I also am a virgin, and am proud to say so: I believe sex is more than a physical act and therefore am waiting until I can get the most out of it. I understand my age will be used against me; however, I am not naive. I have been asked to do drugs, and declined; I have been around people who were drinking, and abstained; I have even been tempted with sex, and have also resisted that.

I wouldn't say you're in a jail cell: I'd say you're in a valley. But the sun still shines, if you'll only climb out.
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Old 03-15-2007, 12:51 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Common sense is relative. One man's common sense is one man's hidden factoid.
Anyone can be a philosopher huh?

Well let me make my shotty attempt and Ill direct my sloppy half-baked brilliance at Enemy: "All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy"

Extra points for the Kubrick reference?

Anyway, who cares what about me you call disappointing, it seems to me an exercise in hypocrisy to say the way you do things is wrong, and the way I do things is right. I'll be 25 this year, I didn't drink until last July. And in hindsight, I didn't achieve anything because of it.

While my drug experimentation has been minimal at best, I will say alcohol doesn't really make a difference and how sex matters at all is beyond me. Its a human function. You're made to engage in sex as a matter of fact. So I don't really see how it would matter at all. Whatever, anyway, given the temporal nature of both alcohol and sex, I wonder how if effects anything for the couple of hours you're engaging in either.

You're going to Emerson huh? I actually find that impressive, don't be scared away by the orientation, the kids there are ****s at first on purpose to scare people off. God damn drama club kids, you get them together in a group and suddenly their too cool for the room. Anyhow, if you make it to Boston before August look me up, otherwise I'll have moved away.

Anyway, my advice still stands. Once at acting school we had to do this exercise where we passed a pillow from stomach to stomach as we laid on the floor. I'll spare you the details but it showed us all that a life governed by fear is inefficient at best and unfulfilled at worst. At least think about it.

And hold on a minute, you're going to be a record producer...in the record industry...and you're not going to do anything "fun." Not doing it might be a bigger career hinderence.
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My life is not governed by fear: it is governed by discipline. I am freer in my purity than They are in their indulgence: they become slaves to the substance. I am not afraid of drugs: I am above them. I don't need them to have fun; their's is a tainted and deceitful fun, besides. It may seem cliche, but I think I can sum it up with some xBISHOPx lyrics:

I don't need to ingest poison
Just to know that I'm alive.

I'm not condemning your lifestyle: I just think there's a better way to live. And thanks for the Emerson advice, man; I'll be moving up there late August/early September.

ps: Did you attend Emerson? You seem to speak firsthand of the orientation.
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My life is not governed by fear: it is governed by discipline. I am freer in my purity than They are in their indulgence: they become slaves to the substance. I am not afraid of drugs: I am above them. I don't need them to have fun; their's is a tainted and deceitful fun, besides. It may seem cliche, but I think I can sum it up with some xBISHOPx lyrics:

I don't need to ingest poison
Just to know that I'm alive.

I'm not condemning your lifestyle: I just think there's a better way to live. And thanks for the Emerson advice, man; I'll be moving up there late August/early September.

ps: Did you attend Emerson? You seem to speak firsthand of the orientation.
Well I mean if you go look at the place, have you been yet? No I go to school is Boston though. Chances are I'll be living in Washington by the time you arrive, but I'm sure Ill visit. Ill hunt you done.

And drugs are the least of my focus, alcohol and sex are really the kickers here. As an aspiring politician though, alcohol is probably more of a necessity for me.
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I never said you were disappointing, I said the path you've chosen is. People who waste their time getting '****ed up' are squandering the potential they have to be great. I am only seventeen, yet I accomplish a lot with my discipline: I devote my time to school and work, hobbies and friends. I have a 4.6 GPA; I work roughly 20 hours a week, and save the majority of my earnings rather than spend them on drugs or whatnot; I bolster my relationships, and chill with friends, without indulging in drugs, alcohol, or tobacco. In my remaining spare time I fool around with Fruity Loops, and have produced thirty-odd original songs. However, my proudest achievement thus far is the receiving of a 30K scholarship to Emerson College in Boston for Audio Production/Sound Design, which I hope will help me achieve my dreams of being a record producer and owning a label someday. I am the top ranked player on my server in Day of Defeat, a highly competitive, skill based online FPS.

These 'accomplishments' may seem trivial to you; but they are not to me. Besides, I am seventeen: I have my whole life in front of me--something which drugs, alcohol, tobacco, and even promiscuity could compromise. Fulfillment is far more important than accomplishment, anyway.

Ultimately, I enjoy life to the fullest extent, without the use of drugs, alcohol, or tobacco; I don't need them to feel alive, or to appreciate the sunset, or to ease my anxious mind. I also am a virgin, and am proud to say so: I believe sex is more than a physical act and therefore am waiting until I can get the most out of it. I understand my age will be used against me; however, I am not naive. I have been asked to do drugs, and declined; I have been around people who were drinking, and abstained; I have even been tempted with sex, and have also resisted that.

I wouldn't say you're in a jail cell: I'd say you're in a valley. But the sun still shines, if you'll only climb out.
You could die tomorrow..not ever to know what is on the other side of your "hard work" and "discipline"...not that death is going to show you what you missed out..but I think you need a healthy balance of what you have and what some like me have..I waste the moments in my day worrying about the next five years..they...may never come...but I dont squander my intelligence and achievements on drugs..alcohol..partying..etc...I have a fine understanding of balance and good mediums..anything in excess is bad..anything..so I think you need to reevaluate why you do the things you do...are you preparing yourself just for the future..tomorrow may never come.
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