The Recreational Drug Thread (member, quote, memory, 2005, hands)

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by jgd85

not quite as big of a joke as your book club, at least it made it past the first subject.

Originally Posted by RezZ

The funny thing is if someone did what he does to this thread in his book club thread, they would be banned within the hour. You can tell which mods haven't quite grown up yet.

Sorry I'll go smoke a blunt now and be a cool adult like you guys and complain about those pesky kids on the interwebs.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Sorry I'll go smoke a blunt now and be a cool adult like you guys and complain about those pesky kids on the interwebs.

Just stay out of the thread, that's all.

[joyboyo53]

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Sorry I'll go smoke a blunt now and be a cool adult like you guys and complain about those pesky kids on the interwebs.

i have many times said that your one of MBs more valuable posters, but it doesnt mean im not gonna call you out for doing exactly what you bitch about. just trolling around looking for an arguement. ethan, we all know that you have a brain for literature and language, do you really need to take every single chance you get to try and beef your ego by going around and being a pretenious smartass? seriously, if you practiced half the generosity and common love for man kind you preach then you might find a lot more people on the boards that like you, even look up to you... and we all know you do care.

not everyone that uses recreational substances are illiterate degenerates. i am sorry you dont understand that plenty of perfectly normal, successful, and otherwise law abiding citizens that take recreational drugs. everyone from your god send savior "obama" down to the joe the plumber have smoked bud. you know what else? they probably thought it was something interesting to talk about at some point. considering the ties these recreational substances have with musicians and the music they made, it is actually a pretty relevant discussion topic.

like with every thread there is plenty of garbage in here, but there has been quite a bit of positive discussion and quality post by some of the members. we would LOVE to have you contribute to the thread, and unless i am mistaken you are a self admitted smoker of the herb yourself.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by jgd85

we would LOVE to have you contribute to the thread

Agreed, as you are one of this forums best/most knowledgeable posters.

@jgd85: I have wondered for some time now... What in the hell are you doing in your avatar?? Eating something, smoking, sucking your thumb, looking at something small?

[joyboyo53]

Originally Posted by RezZ

Agreed, as you are one of this forums best/most knowledgeable posters.

@jgd85: I have wondered for some time now... What in the hell are you doing in your avatar?? Eating something, smoking, sucking your thumb, looking at something small?

its me smoking out of an apple at coachella. when you goto any music festival in the world they always have the reggae bob marley guys selling ****ty pipes for the show, but the state where its most tolerated there isnt a glass piece for a hundred miles... go figure!

Originally Posted by sleepy jack

Washington has a medical marijuana program and it took this step just this year. I don't expect this to happen quickly but I think over the next ten years the more liberal states are going to go this way as well. It's heartening when you consider how these movements happen historically, obviously the more conservative states are going to be the last to go but eventually they'll break. There's no rational reason to ban marijuana, especially for it's medical purposes. If I had to go through the horrors of chemotherapy I'd want weed. Studies show that it's incredibly good for people under going chemotherapy as it keeps up their appetite (chemotherapy causes nausea and makes digestion difficult, marijuana reverses this effect.)

unfortunately you are right. i dont see decriminalization happening federally for at least another 10-20 years, if at all. the ball is definetly rolling but there is a whole lot of misinformation and lobbyist left to fight.

and if you really wanna get a good discussion going, lets talk about the war on drugs.

[Schizotypic]

Originally Posted by jgd85

its me smoking out of an apple at coachella. when you goto any music festival in the world they always have the reggae bob marley guys selling ****ty pipes for the show, but the state where its most tolerated there isnt a glass piece for a hundred miles... go figure!





unfortunately you are right. i dont see decriminalization happening federally for at least another 10-20 years, if at all. the ball is definetly rolling but there is a whole lot of misinformation and lobbyist left to fight.

and if you really wanna get a good discussion going, lets talk about the war on drugs.

Decriminalization doesn't mean it isn't a crime... even though that is what that word should mean considering the make-up of it. All decriminalization means is that it isn't a federal crime, and is somewhat allowed. In Califronia, you can have up to a dub, or one gram, without it being a crime. You can also have up to 27.9 grams without it being anything but a ticket and a drug class. Anything over an ounce (28 grams) is considered a felony because it is intent to distribute. Other things that make it intent to distribute are seperate bags or having marijuana and a scale. Also, your allowed (state-wise) to have any amount under three ounces (64 grams) on your person if you have a medical card, and it is not in seperate bags. Medical cards are easy as **** to get, too. They don't even have perscriptions on them, it just say something like "BubbaxFire Kush" And why is it if it is for "medical use" people can pick-up three ounces a day? I'm not suprised the feds are angry.

[lucifer_sam]

Originally Posted by jgd85

its me smoking out of an apple at coachella. when you goto any music festival in the world they always have the reggae bob marley guys selling ****ty pipes for the show, but the state where its most tolerated there isnt a glass piece for a hundred miles... go figure!





unfortunately you are right. i dont see decriminalization happening federally for at least another 10-20 years, if at all. the ball is definetly rolling but there is a whole lot of misinformation and lobbyist left to fight.

and if you really wanna get a good discussion going, lets talk about the war on drugs.

I was in Venice Beach and there was a headhsop every block.

[Dr_Rez]

Originally Posted by jgd85

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and if you really wanna get a good discussion going, lets talk about the war on drugs.

I just actual did a research paper on this exact topic (although leaning more towards the marijuana side of it) and it was very angering. A 2005 study was done in schools to see the percentage of kids that have tried or regularly use marijuana. The numbers have only grown higher and higher as time goes on. What is sad about that is the budget the DEA and other government agencies has astronomically gone up. A few hundred million alone is spent on the anti marijuana TV ads which in most polls are shown to do absolutely nothing.

Another angering fact beside the OUTRAGEOUS budge for this anti marijuana campaign is the cost of putting a mid to high level drug dealer behind bars. The average costs to get one from the street to sentencing behind bars is around 400,ooo dollars. This absurd amount of money could be put to much better use. Needle Exchange Clinics are a lifesaver among the heavy drug users and people infected with various life threatening diseases.

"The U.S. federal government spent over $19 billion dollars in 2003 on the War on Drugs, at a rate of about $600 per second." This number has grown much higher each year since 2003. Not only that but this is JUST FEDERAL SPENDING. The state is also given a large budget to fight the problem as they see fit. What the government does not seem to understand is that the flow of marijuana WILL NOT STOP. If there is demand for a product, that product WILL be supplied.

I hope others join in this discussion, because there is much more to talk about and many more figures that are truly astounding.

[sleepy jack]

Originally Posted by jgd85

i have many times said that your one of MBs more valuable posters, but it doesnt mean im not gonna call you out for doing exactly what you bitch about. just trolling around looking for an arguement. ethan, we all know that you have a brain for literature and language, do you really need to take every single chance you get to try and beef your ego by going around and being a pretenious smartass? seriously, if you practiced half the generosity and common love for man kind you preach then you might find a lot more people on the boards that like you, even look up to you... and we all know you do care.

not everyone that uses recreational substances are illiterate degenerates. i am sorry you dont understand that plenty of perfectly normal, successful, and otherwise law abiding citizens that take recreational drugs. everyone from your god send savior "obama" down to the joe the plumber have smoked bud. you know what else? they probably thought it was something interesting to talk about at some point. considering the ties these recreational substances have with musicians and the music they made, it is actually a pretty relevant discussion topic.

like with every thread there is plenty of garbage in here, but there has been quite a bit of positive discussion and quality post by some of the members. we would LOVE to have you contribute to the thread, and unless i am mistaken you are a self admitted smoker of the herb yourself.

I do smoke and that's half the reason I hate opening this thread and seeing some boring Cheech and Chong scenario played out by people who contribute nothing other than "I got soooo high this weekend." It's actually interesting to walk in here and see Oojay run around spitting anti-drug Propaganda and then get shot down and proven wrong by several members. Unfortunately, those discussions are quickly drown out by twenty posts that all say the same basic stereotypical stoner things.

There's plenty more worthwhile things to discuss, both Washington and Massachusetts (admittedly they're two of the most liberal states, one allows gay marriage and the other has one of the better civil unions programs out of everyone else and will probably end up flat out legalizing gay marriage itself in a few years) have decriminalized Marijuana which could be a major step up to more states (probably California next if these sort of trends go blue states first as they normally do) following suit. That to me - looser drug laws and keeping nonviolent offenders out of prison - is far more exciting than "dude I got so high this weekend."