Well I would hope you would understand why, yourself. Having universal health care just gives a government, which will always be full of error, more control of your money. It is absolutely dangerous and will force even more taxes on people, which probably won't be worth it because I doubt the universal health care system will be good.

If you're anti-health care you're pro-death.

I am anti-universal healthcare.

Alright, so you're only selectively pro-death. With the selection being poor people.

I went to the emergency room once because I was dehydrated and couldn't keep water down. They gave me an IV tube full of saline and I was fine.

That cost me $2000. As a student I could not afford that. You think a guy with three kids and a wife can afford something like angioplasty or cat scans every three months to monitor his degenerative muscular disease?

Universal Health care is a ****ty idea when you're healthy. Otherwise, its the only thing keeping your ass out of the red.

When a society refuses to put the good health and prosperity of its citizens first, then there is no reason to defend that society and no reason to put any work into it at all.

:yikes: heh, heh

Yes I'm immature and no I'm not getting involved in your pissing contest, and by your I mean everybody

You're the typical right wing American that's never even bothered to look at a Universal Healthcare system, just listens to the negative propaganda and spews it back. Look at any country with a fully subsidised healthcare system and you'll see the wellbeing and mental health of those on low income is so many times better, it's not some massive Government hoarding money and then pissing it away on nothing. People use it, people need it and people get raped of their money if they only have access to health insurance and private healthcare because here's rarely enough regulation on what they're allowed to charge and it's impossible to prepare to have enough money spare just incase you need surgery or long term treatment like cancer. Hell look at Cuba who have the best healthcare system in the world, which is also Universal.

Pretty much the same goes for all your comments. You make statements which you've plainly done put no research or genuine thought into because they're so wildly retarded and you provide no evidence to back up your assertions.

Agreed.

Put me down as music banters singular self proclaimed socialist.:pimp:

I don't consider myself a pure conservative, although like a lot of the other people on this board I am an independent, I have a kind of centrist attitude towards most policies.

One thing I do share with conservatives, though, is an occasion disdain for liberal viewpoints. I don't support the war in iraq but there are other issues where I fall on the right-wing side. Unfortunately, most independent organizations are under liberal control, for example, Unity08. They want to elect a centrist ticket with one republican and one democrat, which is an interesting proposition. However, they also have a website where you can rank the importance of socio-political issues -- unity08.com/issues (couldn't make it a live link). As you can see, energy independence is the top issue. I don't disagree that it's an issue, but the top issue? I wish that more independent conservatives would get involved in these things rather than toeing the GOP party line, but that's just me.

Your logic is atrocious.

I'm a social liberal and fiscal conservative. For the most part.


and I really don't want to get involved with this, but I can't let such statements as "universal health care rulz" to go unchallenged, so I'm just going to quote myself from another board.

and I DO have a proposal for what we should do! Crazy I know!