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Old 01-12-2008, 10:16 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I dislike any religion based on the concept of faith very much. People just aren't seeing the difference between faith with a reason and blind faith. Its ridiculous to me how people don't see through the lies of church authorities.

I'm forced to be in a seminary class by my parents, and I just want to paraphrase something my seminary teacher said a few days ago that made me want to scream in the middle of class. "People who think that religion is blind faith don't realize that it is God commanding them, and that they should be obedient." What he completely ignored was that God is not giving us commandments. We are given "commandments" by people we don't know one goddamn bit. If there were a God, he wouldn't punish us for not trusting someone we don't know whos saying utterly ridiculous **** would he?

On a another note, I had a very eerie experience a few days ago that made me question whether there may be something higher other than what we don't already know. I don't really care to explain, but it was pretty weird.

Just for reference, I consider myself agnostic and buddhist (to some extent).
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Old 01-12-2008, 11:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Does there need to be a point?
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I wrote a very good paper on religion for school, and how i though the church was just brainwashing millions and millions of people into beliving ridiculous completly unlogical things and whatnot, and how it is consequently destroying our world. My teacher failed me, and i almost got suspended. how that for freedom of speach??
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Old 01-12-2008, 12:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I'm forced to be in a seminary class by my parents, and I just want to paraphrase something my seminary teacher said a few days ago that made me want to scream in the middle of class.

That must be tough. I mean, I have to keep myself from getting brainwashed by people I bump into from time to time, and I don't even go to church. I respect you for not being brainwashed in that type of scenario. It must be very hard.

Also, let me say that I think religion can be good. But clearly in cases, like the one mentioned above, they're using it for propaganda. It's like, 'what are you people so afraid of that some people might not believe in organized religion.' I like to think of church as a place where people commune, and sing praises, and are greatful for their experience, but I can't but think it's just these terrified preachers, who just like having the power over who they're preaching to, and are absolutely petrified of losing that power. Then, of course, I have a problem with people who attend those churches. I feel a lot of them just grew up in a different age.

What most people fail to realize is that when they're young, their god is their parents. Their parents are telling them what to do, and a lot of parents tried to use fear to keep them in line. Well, we're coming into a different age now where not all parents are using fear, and it's cool. Yet, a lot of the older folks are terrified by it.

By the way, Mockingbird, that sounds like it really sucks, but you know, I care what you think, regardless of what anyone else does.
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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thak you very very much I agree with pretty much every thing you just said there, completly true
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I'm forced to be in a seminary class by my parents, and I just want to paraphrase something my seminary teacher said a few days ago that made me want to scream in the middle of class.
Sad thing is, he's a really nice guy.
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Old 01-12-2008, 08:02 PM   #17 (permalink)
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point of life is to die, everything you do leads up to it.
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point of life is to die, everything you do leads up to it.
Yes, and that clearly is the opinion of an atheist. If there is no afterlife, as you claim, then the last moment of your existence is the moment you die, and that would be the point. I believe there is an afterlife, and I don't know if god judges you or maybe your spirit just ascends accordingly to the level of your consciousness or mind-spirit, but I do respect your opinion, Kevorkian Logic.

I think it was Buddha who was asked on his deathbed
"Are you afraid?"
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"Why would I be afraid, when my whole life has been leading up to this moment?"
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To what extent would that be?
It would be to the extent where I respect his ideas, and try to follow buddhist teachings, but am not disciplined enough to do a good job at it.
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Does there need to be a point?
Doesn't everything you do seem so vain, if there is no point to it?
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