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Trollheart 01-13-2023 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR (Post 2225117)
I didn't really, but thanks anyways. :laughing:

I love the Shining movie, I've sort of been wanting to read the actual novel for a while now though. Maybe when I get bored, I'll pick some up. To be perfectly honest, the only books I've read in the last couple years have all been music related. I just haven't been inspired to read fiction in a long time.

I did watch the Thinner TV movie a long time ago though - I remember it being goofy as hell. I can sort of get all the horror of anorexia in this 5 minute track and save me the time of reading a whole novel though.



I've never managed to get into Lord of the Rings. Way back when I was a kid, my mom and uncle were bringing me and my brother to see the first movie in theatres. It turned out, they were sold out for that movie, so we ended up seeing Jimmy Neutron: Boy Genius in theatre 2 instead. Great movie, I should've taken that experience as a sign that it just wasn't meant for me. As an adult, my wife made me watch the first Lord of the Rings and I was bored to tears. I swear, most of the run time, they're just walking up this big mountain, trying to find the ring, or trying to protect it, I don't ****ing remember, but I kind of wish someone just smashed that god damn ring with a sledgehammer and saved me the time. Good movie to fall asleep to though - I swear that mountain was like, the biggest mountain ever. The only action I even remember was a fight with a troll/giant (or was it a big spider?) - that lasted for all of 5 minutes. That part was ok.

Yeah, I'm not big on fantasy movies. Harry Potter is okay though.

The novel of The Shining is SO much better than the movie.
As for LOTR, yeah, you have to be into fantasy because it is a drag otherwise. it was actually either the first, or the second fantasy book I ever read (think I was about 17) though I had been into science fiction so it was kind of not too unnatural a progression.

There is a lot of walking in it. Wonder why they didn't just ride horses?

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2225122)
Hah! I read Shogun which is 1152 pages. Noobs.

Oh **** I read that too.
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Originally Posted by SGR (Post 2225131)
Any good?

****ing excellent.

SGR 01-13-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2225133)
It was one of the best novels I've ever read tbh

I could see it starting sorta slow yeah. And I probably never would have had the patience if I wasn't basically locked down in the program with no electronic device to keep me distracted. Like Chula, I don't have the passion or attention span for finishing a 1000 page non fiction book. I'll get bored of the topic before 300 pages is up and that's if I'm really enjoying it.

Like i have a ww2 book about the nazis that is super long like that and I read what I consider a lot of it... like 300+ pages... yet I'm still only a third of the way

See I'm the opposite. I can't really read a 1000 page fiction book because usually at some point, I think: "Does any of this even ****ing matter? It's all make believe." Non-fiction has the benefit of leaving me with the feeling that I've absorbed some kind of real word experience. Which isn't to say that fiction can't provide that, it's just that with much longer fiction, I'm more apt to ask myself the question of if it's really worth the time.

Regarding the nazi book, is it Shirer's "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich"?

jwb 01-13-2023 08:29 PM

No. I think that one is longer. I've heard of it. It's called the devils disciples

jwb 01-13-2023 08:30 PM

And if I'm being honest I think I gain more from fiction than non fiction. The same feeling you described is how I feel about reading the news. Yes it really happened but that doesn't mean I'm not checked out.

I think I just find an author's artistic depiction of reality to be more interesting than actual reality usually is. If that makes sense.

Chula Vista 01-13-2023 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR (Post 2225113)
I tried reading that one too - got maybe 200 pages in - but there's too many ****ing characters in that book.

Don't ever read 'Strangers' by Koontz or 'Swan Song' by McKammon then.
Read both not long after The Stand and it's obvious that they were inspired by the multiple main characters with no connection until they are brought together by a shared bond narrative of King's opus.

Fun books but both suffers from too many ****ing characters.



imo
non-fiction = documentary
fiction = movie

SGR 01-13-2023 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2225142)
And if I'm being honest I think I gain more from fiction than non fiction. The same feeling you described is how I feel about reading the news. Yes it really happened but that doesn't mean I'm not checked out.

I think I just find an author's artistic depiction of reality to be more interesting than actual reality usually is. If that makes sense.

I guess so - if you're reading great writers. For example, Henry Miller's depictions are often/always greater/funnier/stranger than reality, but I find most often that reality is stranger than fiction.

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 2225145)
Don't ever read 'Strangers' by Koontz or 'Swan Song' by McKammon then. Read both not long after The Stand and it's obvious that both were inspired by the [multiple main characters with no connection until they are brought together by a shared bond] of King's opus.

Both fun books but both suffers from too many ****ing characters.



imo
non-fiction = documentary
fiction = movie

I hate that ****. I should not be expected to take notes when I read your novel.

jwb 01-13-2023 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR (Post 2225146)
I guess so - if you're reading great writers. For example, Henry Miller's depictions are often/always greater/funnier/stranger than reality, but I find most often that reality is stranger than fiction.

well yeah, I only really read books from a handful of writers that i like. And it's not about even being stranger than reality. Just more interesting as the result of being filtered through the mind of someone with an interesting pov.

SGR 01-13-2023 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2225147)
well yeah, I only really read books from a handful of writers that i like. And it's not about even being stranger than reality. Just more interesting as the result of being filtered through the mind of someone with an interesting pov.

That's a fair perspective. Out of curiosity, who are some of your favorite writers/authors?

Chula Vista 01-13-2023 09:17 PM

This was my most difficult read in that I found myself constantly re-reading paragraphs immediately after first getting through them to make sure I fully got her points.
Very heavy stuff but also an incredible history lesson.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Case_for_God

The Batlord 01-13-2023 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SGR (Post 2225131)
Any good?

Absolutely. 1000 pages go by real quick. It's nothing super literary, just an escapist book about a 16th/17th century English sailor who gets stranded on Japan and fumbles around the end of the feudal era just before the Tokugawa era unites Japan. I've actually finished it twice and started reading it countless times. It's the most fun book. The fact that it's over a thousand pages is actually not an impediment but a bonus, because you get that much adventure.


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