Anarcho-Capitalism
Does anyone else embrace Anarcho-Capitalism on this forum? I hope I am not the only one.
More information (Anarcho-Capitalism) for the curious: Wikipedia - Anarcho-Capitalism Good FAQ for Anarcho-Capitalism Though it does not answer all. |
i believe capitalism is a necessary evil in america, but i dont believe in anarcho-capitalism if any form of anarchy were to work i believe it would be a sort of anarcho-communism
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communism is made of fail
are you not entitled to the sweat of your brow? |
anarcho-communism isnt quite like that mike and i just found a picture of you on my computer err actually several, in one im pretty sure you've pissed yourself
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I'd think that was cool if I was 15.
When you grow up and have mommy and daddy problems you get a better understanding of why you need government for anything to work in a fashion we know it to now. |
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lol why am i on your computer and i realize its obviously not the same, but working for others does not appeal to me, no one deserves my work. |
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Yeah, I don't think you read it seeing you didn't state any specific problems. Anarcho-capitalism is not anti-government. It is anti-state. There would be a sort of governing force under anarcho-capitalism, just not one like we have. That is why you need to read my resources. |
anarcho-capitalism reminds me of christian humanism,
because they're both bullshit. |
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Let me just point this out, when the state does not intervene, it leads to monopolies, and when you have a monopoly, you no longer have capitalism.
By having no state intervention, you eventually lose capitalism. I'm not going to waste my time reading further into something that is so theory based and ignores practiced experience. |
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I can't say I do embrace it. However, I think having no state intervention is better than having a lot of state intervention. I still think a minor amount of interaction from the state should exist, mainly to help people and not much else.
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This guy also argues political debates on the internets. You can see from his appearance the general IQ of such people. Your "sources" are a pro-Anarcho-Capitalist info site and an informational Wikipedia article any Tom, **** or Harry can walk in or edit. Useful sources in such discussion are ones that provide an in-depth look at what it it is and what the pros AND cons are. Ergo, come back when you've trawled a library with a Dewey decimal index in hand looking for books that provide detailed information on the subject, along with information sources on alternate ideals. Furthermore, stop saying "have you read my sources" until a) you provide actual sources, and not a fluffy load of nonsense and b) you've actually properly read up on the subject yourself and have a good understanding of it and surrounding debate potentials. |
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That guy went to harvard you ****ing moron.
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Seriously, share your opinion or get the **** out of the thread. I want people who are willing to state the opinion and/or their argument. Both of those sources provide great books for you to read such as, The Machinery of Freedom, Man, Economy, and State, and The Economics and Ethics of Private Property. While I am an anarcho-capitalist and support it I do see its faults and I will admit that this style isn't a perfect way to live. For one, it will be hard for justice to be served because there will not be anything that will truly have a monopoly on force. So there you have it. Present an argument or GTFO. |
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That being said. Companies will eventually monopolize an industry. We know this because it has happened. Talk theory and statistics and the normal curve all you want. Thoery isn't reality, and the reality is, we've had and continue to have monopolies. Tell me who interupts a monopoly if there is no government? |
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We're talking about a companey thats attained such a level of power and money it can afford to drive out competitors by any means needed. Post WWII we have the oil companies bombing trolly car lines in Ohio. Walmart is constantly accused of destroying mom and pop stores. And the people have the ability everytime. And they do nothing. Microsoft and Google are poised to rule the planet, and whos to stop them? You underestimate the power of comfort. |
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I didn't really understand this concept. In reading through, it said that it basically wanted to do away with government, with the exception of police, courts, and judges, and it seemed to suggest those would be funded by the free market, since there aren't taxes, which would create an endless amount of police corruption. Their only incentive would be to make money, by constantly fining and arresting people for stuff they didn't even do.
Also, without taxes, you could still have water in the free market, although the highly sophisticated process of dillusion, and water testing, things of that nature may no longer be as viable. How would you control sewage? There's no money in that. How would we build roads? We would have no incentive, since they don't make money, unless they instituted an outrageously expensive toll system. Also, in the critique, it said something about needing to be protected against the protectors. I'm not sure exactly what it was talking about. What is this system's policy with advocating and handling war? Sorry, I got tired reading that and couldn't understand all of it. |
Don't be sorry, the original draft was written in crayon.
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No, it wasn't you lying piece of sack. It was like 10 pages. I figure it would just be better to ask the op to clarify rather than read a book about it.
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As for roads and sewage systems, they would all be privatized. I don't see how this would be such a problem either. The big thing to remember is that this is a TOTALLY free market, unlike the US's mixed economy. If someone charges a high toll for the road then some other company, in order to make money, will build a similar road with a less price to cross. This means the other company will need to lower there price to get more money. It's the same thing with sewage. Quote:
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An encyclopedia is a reference tool for a very basic knowledge on a subject. You can use it to perhaps help define what you're debating, but you can't use it for anything further because it's ... well, a broad reference tool not a specific, deep information resource of the level needed to embark on a debate. Quote:
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Excuse me for being brusque; please come back when you have a ****ing clue. |
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You don't seem to realize that over $200 billion are spent annually in the U.S. on roadwork. I seriously doubt tolls could pay for that. Also, what about schools? They're all privatized now, so poor people can't afford to send their kids to school.
Also, I was speaking about international wars. I'm about as anti-war as you can get, but I do believe we should have a military for the sake of national defense, at least. |
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Yet again, read the books yourself as opposed to using the conclusion reached by someone else. Try and make an argument after you've formed an informed opinion, rather than assuming that the people you're reading from have done all the proper leg work for you. You seem not to have noticed I'm not arguing for or against Anarcho-Capitalism, I'm arguing that you don't have the knowledge basis required to be starting a debate on the subject. As someone once said; Quote:
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Debate is all well and good but there has been some name calling in the thread. Can we please refrain from name calling and post on topic please.
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Bumping this because apparently political debate in a political debate is somehow not a very good idea. Anyway, because I'd really like to know what Inuzuka Skysword find so appealing about Anarcho-Capitalism, so copy/pasting from the other thread:
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Also, you didn't really address the free rider problem at all except to say that somehow Capitalism will magically solve it. :/ Quote:
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You've shown time and time again that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of government and economics. To you, Anarcho-Capitalism exists as one political theory that what, evolved out of nowhere? And it can only exist in practice when it's followed through completely? Sorry, but that isn't how the political system works. My problem with your internet readings is that you understand what theorists write, but you don't understand the principles behind them. It's like learning a math formula. It's easy to plug numbers in, but do you understand why you're doing it? I'm completely honest when I ask this, have you ever taken a class in government & politics? Quote:
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"Anarcho-Capitalism" is an oxymoron, as anarchy refers to the absence of all authorities, including market forces.
Besides, it's the most idiotic system in the world, next to marxism-leninism. The failure of the private enterprises, for example, in the US to provide even basic health and dental care to the people should scare even the most hardcore libertarian away from the though of a minimalistic state with no government intervention. |
This thread made me laugh and I realized why I miss/didn't miss this place at all. Skysword got trumped left and right by citing unreliable data and backing an idea that has already fallen on its face.
Anarcho-capitalism fails to take into account the human element. Mankind is greedy. Greed gives rise to monopolies, monopolies replace government, and bam within 10 years you have an oppressive regime comprised of multinational, billion dollar firms. Sounds far-fetched? Yep. So does "Anarcho"-Capitalism working. |
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