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joyboyo53 08-27-2008 12:04 AM

is racism ok for MB?
 
When a recent member of the forums was questioned on their belief that it is reasonable to compare mexicans to pit bulls, they replied "How is it different? They're both violent breeds of living things."

Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sit right with me. These boards are home for many people from different countries and cultures, so I want to know what you think MB... is racism ok for MB?

The Unfan 08-27-2008 12:10 AM

No, all humor must be banned!

CAPTAIN CAVEMAN 08-27-2008 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jgd85 (Post 511242)
Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sit right with me. These boards are home for many people from different countries and cultures, so I want to know what you think MB... is racism ok for MB?

a) where did you get that idea
b) yes racism is ok with MB

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-27-2008 12:32 AM

No it isn't

And thats why we have a Report Post feature which in this case has not been used.

As much as i'd love to spend time reading every rambling from every wannabe political commentator on this forum to check for these things I don't have the time or the patience. So if you see something like this then just report it.

Seltzer 08-27-2008 12:34 AM

I don't really want to get into this, but I guess I'm obliged to. Anyway, no, racism isn't ok for MB... but there's no racism here.


From what I gather... you are saying all pitbulls should be banned because (factually) a higher than normal percentage of them are violent, in comparison to other dogs.

And the Unfan drew a comparison using a hypothetical scenario in which we would ban all Mexicans because (factually in this hypothetical scenario) a higher than normal percentage of them are violent, in comparison to other people, and he insinuated this would be ridiculous.

Whether this fact is true, I don't know - if it is, it gives credence to the analogy - if it isn't, well the racial scenario is hypothetical anyway, so it's still a valid analogy. Point being... if you generalise pitbulls as being dangerous, by that logic, he could generalise Mexicans as being violent. No racism intended on his part.

joyboyo53 08-27-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The Unfan (Post 511246)
No, all humor must be banned!

Humor is when people think something is funny, not when somebody begins trolling other peoples post in every forum just to try and start an arguement... then goes to the extreme to bring racial comparisons just to make it funny. If you were to make a black joke would the be ok too? It's humor right? No, it's WRONG.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seltzer
I don't really want to get into this, but I guess I'm obliged to. Anyway, no, racism isn't ok for MB... but there's no racism here.


From what I gather... you are saying all pitbulls should be banned because (factually) a higher than normal percentage of them are violent, in comparison to other dogs.

And the Unfan drew a comparison using a hypothetical scenario in which we would ban all Mexicans because (factually in this hypothetical scenario) a higher than normal percentage of them are violent, in comparison to other people, and he insinuated this would be ridiculous.

Whether this fact is true, I don't know - if it is, it gives credence to the analogy - if it isn't, well the racial scenario is hypothetical anyway, so it's still a valid analogy. Point being... if you generalise pitbulls as being dangerous, by that logic, he could generalise Mexicans as being violent. No racism intended on his part.

It wasnt racist of him to use the comparison for factual purposes. I didnt appreiciate his untasteful comparison (when he could have used a million other things, better things), but the wasn't the problem. It got racist when he said "How is it different? They're both violent breeds of living things." That is racist....whether its a joke or not.


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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger
No it isn't

And thats why we have a Report Post feature which in this case has not been used.

As much as i'd love to spend time reading every rambling from every wannabe political commentator on this forum to check for these things I don't have the time or the patience. So if you see something like this then just report it.

I didn't want to goto the length to report him without first getting the opinion of the members. Hell, maybe its not racist, maybe I am wrong; I just really dont think that can be seen as anything but a racist comment (even if it is a joke).

TheBig3 08-27-2008 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jgd85 (Post 511242)
Maybe its just me, but that doesn't sit right with me. These boards are home for many people from different countries and cultures, so I want to know what you think MB... is racism ok for MB?

Some of the dopes around here think their funny, edgy, and clever. Careful where you step man, when you tell them that their biggoted ****heads they all gang up on you.

I'm not kidding.

Wayfarer 08-27-2008 12:10 PM

Well, yeh, it should be okay. Freedom of speech and all.

lucifer_sam 08-27-2008 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jgd85 (Post 511286)
Humor is when people think something is funny, not when somebody begins trolling other peoples post in every forum just to try and start an arguement... then goes to the extreme to bring racial comparisons just to make it funny. If you were to make a black joke would the be ok too? It's humor right? No, it's WRONG.

Are you for cereal? Are you one of those kids that looks nervously around the room in search of minorities before you laugh at Dave Chapelle? If you're so uptight about racial differences perhaps you should examine your own prejudices.

joyboyo53 08-27-2008 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 511359)
Well, yeh, it should be okay. Freedom of speech and all.

Ya well technically trolling, spamming, advertising, and bumping your own thread is freedom of speech too, and its not allowed on these boards. It is called RULES.

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Originally Posted by lucifer_sam (Post 511359)
Are you for cereal? Are you one of those kids that looks nervously around the room in search of minorities before you laugh at Dave Chapelle? If you're so uptight about racial differences perhaps you should examine your own prejudices.

Do you even understand Dave Chappelle? Do you have any idea why he left the show?

"Chappelle also said that he felt some of his sketches were "socially irresponsible". [18][19] He singled out the "pixie sketch" in which pixies appear to people and encourage them to reinforce stereotypes of their races. In the sketch, Chappelle is wearing blackface and is dressed as a character in a minstrel show.[20] According to Chappelle, during the filming of the sketch, a white crew member was laughing in a way that made him feel uncomfortable and made him rethink the show.[18][19] Chappelle said "it was the first time I felt that someone was not laughing with me but laughing at me."

There is a differnece in recognizing racial differences and making tasteless jokes about minorities.

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 511321)
Some of the dopes around here think their funny, edgy, and clever. Careful where you step man, when you tell them that their biggoted ****heads they all gang up on you.

I'm not kidding.

You really weren't kidding.


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