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Fyrenza 09-18-2008 10:38 PM

Gravity: Theory or Law
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Double X (Post 519098)
I mean there is a theory of gravity too, but no one argues that for some reason...

saw this in another thread and am curious

how many of you think the Laws of Gravity are are a theory and how many think they are ironclad laws?

15Steps 09-18-2008 10:40 PM

inb4 the world is flat.

[MERIT] 09-18-2008 10:43 PM

Why does it matter if it's a theory or a law? It's real either way.

Sir Isaac Newton was spot on when he first published his 3 fundamental laws.

Fyrenza 09-18-2008 10:46 PM

dont have a stroke dude

just curious

[MERIT] 09-18-2008 10:50 PM

Gravitation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Fyrenza 09-18-2008 10:55 PM

wow

im so impressed

want to answer the question now?

debaserr 09-18-2008 10:57 PM

you posted 3 times in this thread but it says you have 2 posts

Fyrenza 09-18-2008 10:59 PM

thats is weird

maybe i dont really exist

maybe just the theory of me exists

debaserr 09-18-2008 11:10 PM

still 2
you're in a post count warp

[MERIT] 09-18-2008 11:12 PM

lounge posts dont count

Tomorrow 09-18-2008 11:22 PM

Does anyone know why community posts don't count? I don't exactly give a sh*t about post counts, just seems silly for a post not to be counted as a post.

This thread is also silly. Needs more cats.

Fyrenza 09-18-2008 11:42 PM

yeah it is

it did sound like he believed that Newton's Laws were carved in stone and didnt know that scientists are still trying to find the answers that will make the theories into laws or principles w/e

there is still so much that our little guesses cant begin to explain
up to a point we can see and feel our way
but then things start unraveling and the theories fall apart and we are back to square one
or one hunderd and one
wherever the extropolations started disagreeing with the reality

The Unfan 09-19-2008 08:42 AM

Both. Bold text mine.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxford English Dictionary
law

• noun 1 a rule or system of rules recognized by a country or community as regulating the actions of its members and enforced by the imposition of penalties. 2 such rules as a subject of study or as the basis of the legal profession. 3 statute law and the common law. 4 a statement of fact to the effect that a particular natural or scientific phenomenon always occurs if certain conditions are present. 5 a rule defining correct procedure or behaviour in a sport. 6 something having binding force or effect: his word was law. 7 (the law) informal the police.

Quote:

theory

• noun (pl. theories) 1 a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained. 2 an idea accounting for or justifying something. 3 a set of principles on which an activity is based.

Fyrenza 09-19-2008 09:18 AM

im trying to look at the big pic

there are enough discrepancies in the theory (that is based on the laws and principles) that scientists are still looking for the real answer

the flat earth theory was based on pretty conclusive scientific knowledge
but it was wrong
and it took more investigation of the theory to figure out the true answer

Barnard17 09-19-2008 06:46 PM

Gravity is a scientific theory. Gravity is the concept and rules as to why and how something produces a gravitational affect and how that can be used.

Scientific law is that if you're in space and you drop something it doesn't go anywhere but if you're on Terraferma it will plummet to the ground.

Law is the observation, theory is the explanation.

Fyrenza 09-19-2008 08:07 PM

everyone knows that newtons laws of gravity were shot all to hell by einsteins theory of relativity right?

just because a theory covers an existing phenonomen and almost answers the question of how it works does not mean it is the truth or the correct answer

[MERIT] 09-20-2008 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyrenza (Post 521561)
everyone knows that newtons laws of gravity were shot all to hell by einsteins theory of relativity right?

just because a theory covers an existing phenonomen and almost answers the question of how it works does not mean it is the truth or the correct answer

Shot to hell? They completely compliment each other actually. Einstein simply utilized Newton's therories and added the concept of time.

Thrice 09-20-2008 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomorrow (Post 521182)
Does anyone know why community posts don't count? I don't exactly give a sh*t about post counts, just seems silly for a post not to be counted as a post.

This thread is also silly. Needs more cats.

thats a new one to me, sounds like a jew rule IMO

[MERIT] 09-20-2008 08:27 PM

hehe, you said the J word.

Fyrenza 09-20-2008 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oojay (Post 521983)
Shot to hell? They completely compliment each other actually. Einstein simply utilized Newton's therories and added the concept of time.

you are missing the point

regardless of which theory we look at
if
at any point
it is disproven by facts
then it was based on incorrect data and is not the correct answer

newtons laws were built on but ultimately disproved by einsteins theory of relativity

one day someone may come along and disprove einsteins theories
but not if everyone quits probing for the real answer

[MERIT] 09-21-2008 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fyrenza (Post 522035)
you are missing the point

regardless of which theory we look at
if
at any point
it is disproven by facts
then it was based on incorrect data and is not the correct answer

newtons laws were built on but ultimately disproved by einsteins theory of relativity

one day someone may come along and disprove einsteins theories
but not if everyone quits probing for the real answer

You're not saying anything. How is gravity disproven by facts? Newton's Laws were not disproven by Einstein's theories. Take a f*cking physics course at the YMCA you ass.

FireInCairo 09-21-2008 04:31 AM

I dont think anyone can say anything is law...

right-track 09-21-2008 05:00 AM

...Mod Law.

Oojay...stop the anger.

Fyrenza 09-21-2008 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fsu dot edu
Because Newton's law did not include such retardation effects, and permitted violations of special relativity, it was clear that Newton's law had to be an approximation to the correct law of gravity.

which einstein came up with in his Theory of Relativity

Quote:

So why is Newton still taught? The problem is that it takes 4-5 years of math/physics background to fully understand Einsteins theory.
newton is taught as a 'special case,' to give people a basic understanding of the concept

but einsteins theory is the 'correct' one

so far

i might have a prob taking classes at the ymca

im female and already attended a private college

is the ymca where you went?


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