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WaspStar 10-31-2008 10:03 AM

To be honest, I'll sort of feel bad...
 
...for McCain if he loses. Not as a politician (I despise his stances), but because everyone knows that his year was 2000, and he was cheated out of it by Bush's negative campaigning. I hate to say it, but I think we would have been far better off with McCain these past eight years than Bush, and besides, if McCain had been the nominee, maybe Gore would have put up a real fight in 2000 and the word "chad" would not be a household term.


Of course, I'll feel even worse if McCain wins, but that's another story.

spark10036 10-31-2008 10:55 AM

feeling bad for McCain is like feeling bad for The Chikie Girls,...what if they had any talent...
americans should get over yourselves.u make the stupidest things when it comes to politics.and what is even worst most americans stick by your leaders even if they make the most outrageous decisions.
Their is a term describing american foreign policy in the last 20 years,and we use it a lot here in europe:terrorism. u don't have to wear a mask or be muslim to be a terrorist....:soapbox:
so shut up,vote for obama,and wish for the best...
feeling sorry for mccain...:crazy:
well what about feeling bad for that conservative bitch sarah palin too?

WaspStar 10-31-2008 11:20 AM

Everyone deserves sympathy. This isn't a political matter, it's a question of basic humanity.

I just think it's important, as we keep demonizing the other side (and I'm guilty of extreme anti-Republican bias) that, in the end, we emphasize with other people, whether they're killers or corrupt politicians or whatever. It's a bit trite and cliched to say so, but at heart, I really believe that.

If I didn't make it clear, I think the world will be completely screwed if McCain's elected (not that Obama will be the new FDR, but he'll be a hell of a lot better than McSame). But still...I don't know, as cynical as I can be, I still feel bad for people.

(I guess I haven't completely renounced my Catholic upbringing.)

Brad Stengel 11-03-2008 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by spark10036 (Post 537943)
feeling bad for McCain is like feeling bad for The Chikie Girls,...what if they had any talent...
americans should get over yourselves.u make the stupidest things when it comes to politics.and what is even worst most americans stick by your leaders even if they make the most outrageous decisions.
Their is a term describing american foreign policy in the last 20 years,and we use it a lot here in europe:terrorism. u don't have to wear a mask or be muslim to be a terrorist....:soapbox:
so shut up,vote for obama,and wish for the best...
feeling sorry for mccain...:crazy:
well what about feeling bad for that conservative bitch sarah palin too?



Most Europeans tend to be pretty sheeplike as well, it's just not as obvious because your countries aren't superpowers.

I hate when Europeans use blanket terms and criticize Americans for voting for the wrong leaders. People tend to be ignorant voters no matter where you go, the United States is no exception, and neither is any European country. And if you actually wanted America to 'change' you wouldn't endorse Obama, and instead endorse a third party candadite that hasn't been taken by the lobbiests (sp?) yet. Fuck Obama and McCain.



But, back to WaspStar, I know what you mean. One time someone pointed out to me that they felt bad for Bush on a human level like that, and I agree. I think it's kind of inhuman and short sighted and selfish not to feel bad for these people who are either hated by millions for a simple difference in opinion, or are losing the biggest contest in the world on an extremely public level.

FireInCairo 11-03-2008 06:53 PM

^^ Pretty sure at least a few euro countries would count as superpowers

...and americans do seem to be (not on the whole) the most dim witted, prejudicial, voting on the lines of religion and race, red neck f:ucks around.

Brad Stengel 11-03-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by FireInCairo (Post 539914)
^^ Pretty sure at least a few euro countries would count as superpowers

...and americans do seem to be (not on the whole) the most dim witted, prejudicial, voting on the lines of religion and race, red neck f:ucks around.

Eh, I feel that's not as true as the media would have you believe.

FireInCairo 11-03-2008 06:56 PM

Don't go to the south.

Double X 11-03-2008 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FireInCairo (Post 539914)
^^ Pretty sure at least a few euro countries would count as superpowers

...and americans do seem to be (not on the whole) the most dim witted, prejudicial, voting on the lines of religion and race, red neck f:ucks around.

Maybe in the Bible Belt, but NE and the West Coast are fairly liberal.

Fruitonica 11-04-2008 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FireInCairo (Post 539914)
^^ Pretty sure at least a few euro countries would count as superpowers

Which one? I think the US has been basically the sole super power in the world since the end of the Cold War. But I kinda get the feeling it's star is fading slightly, whereas China's economy and influence is sky rocketing and, considering their enormous population, I wouldn't be suprised if in 15 years they are on equal footing with America [UNQUALIFIED SPECULATION/].

ProggyMan 11-04-2008 12:29 AM

Some owners deserting factories in China - Los Angeles Times
Sorry to burst your bubble. but China's ****ed.


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