which came first... (single, quote, hands, Organ)

spearmint · 12-14-2004, 03:18 PM

the chicken or the egg?

davidMC1982 · 12-14-2004, 04:59 PM

Depends on how you look at it. The question is too loosely defined to say either way.

If you asked, "what came first, the chicken as we know it or the egg," the answer would unquestionably be the egg.

You can only say the chicken if you allow previous generations of evolution to be counted as chickens. Of course, if you believe in creationism then the chicken certainly came first.

Dave

Raine · 12-14-2004, 05:57 PM

i've got two answers to this question. One that's stupid and the other is actually rather logical.

The first answer is:
I came first and I made the egg with my bare hands.

And now for my logical answer.
I believe that a chicken came first. Based on the fact that energy can be neither created or destroyed but just does so happen exist one way or other I think that a chicken had to come first since the byproducts or reproductive organs can not exist otherwise.
And I think that there had to be at least 2 chickens of course to make a the egg.
I always hated this question because if only people of the world just heard my answerr(s) first they wouldn't keep asking the same question over and over.
In any case, it is kinda known that the reproductive systems and organs are some of the most primitive systems and also the first to develop.
It only makes sense that when one chicken met another chicken that they heard the urge to make an egg. Because back then the concept of frontal lobes didn't dawn upon mother nature but apparently amygdalas did and so that is the reason why the chicken came before the egg.

Hope I said something logical.

Peace out.

davidMC1982 · 12-14-2004, 07:17 PM

Except, if energy cannot be created nor destroyed, where did the chicken come from?

I beleive the egg came first because of the genetic mutations that have to occur in nature for new species to be produced. These mutations would have occured in the egg, and as such, the egg came first. This only holds true with the caveat that the previous generation of evolution (whatever laid the egg) isn't classed as a chicken.

Of course, the true answer is neither came first. The way evolution occurs over many millions of years means the line between the chicken/egg becomes blurred. Although, if you wanted to be really clever you could say neither; single cell organisms came first.

Dave

jesus · 12-14-2004, 08:48 PM

egg

rise_above · 12-14-2004, 10:20 PM

i dont see the point in this question? y does it matter? this usually ends up in confusion and arguments. the only thing that does matter is that we have KFC and that it stays here

Oi_To_The_World · 12-14-2004, 10:26 PM

i think it started off as a stupid useless post, and then people got philosophical with it. but yes, KFC is delicious. what ever happened to colonel sanders? i bet he knows which came first, after all he did live to like 120 years old

jibber · 12-14-2004, 10:54 PM

well, it's not limited to a chicken egg specifically, so i'm going to say the egg, since there were dinosaur eggs long before there were chickens. And since I believe in evolution my take on it would be that the dinosaurs eventually evolved into chickens.

rise_above · 12-14-2004, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibber

well, it's not limited to a chicken egg specifically, so i'm going to say the egg, since there were dinosaur eggs long before there were chickens. And since I believe in evolution my take on it would be that the dinosaurs eventually evolved into chickens.

i guess thats a good way to settle it

covle · 12-15-2004, 09:57 AM

colonel sanders....an icon.
another icon...(only aussies will follow me)...hughey...from hugheys cooking adventures

12-14-2004, 03:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
spearmint Everything's eventual Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Norwich, england Posts: 173	which came first... the chicken or the egg?

12-14-2004, 05:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Raine Full-Time Hellion Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,531	i've got two answers to this question. One that's stupid and the other is actually rather logical. The first answer is: I came first and I made the egg with my bare hands. And now for my logical answer. I believe that a chicken came first. Based on the fact that energy can be neither created or destroyed but just does so happen exist one way or other I think that a chicken had to come first since the byproducts or reproductive organs can not exist otherwise. And I think that there had to be at least 2 chickens of course to make a the egg. I always hated this question because if only people of the world just heard my answerr(s) first they wouldn't keep asking the same question over and over. In any case, it is kinda known that the reproductive systems and organs are some of the most primitive systems and also the first to develop. It only makes sense that when one chicken met another chicken that they heard the urge to make an egg. Because back then the concept of frontal lobes didn't dawn upon mother nature but apparently amygdalas did and so that is the reason why the chicken came before the egg. Hope I said something logical. Peace out. __________________ A pair of powerful spectacles has sometimes sufficed to cure a person in love. ~ Friedrich Nietzsche

12-14-2004, 10:20 PM	#6 (permalink)
rise_above drummer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Posts: 117	i dont see the point in this question? y does it matter? this usually ends up in confusion and arguments. the only thing that does matter is that we have KFC and that it stays here __________________ Living tommorow in everyones sorrow Modern man's daydreams have turned into nightmares -Henry Rollins

12-14-2004, 10:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
Oi_To_The_World Unpatriot Act Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: planet of the rapes Posts: 389	i think it started off as a stupid useless post, and then people got philosophical with it. but yes, KFC is delicious. what ever happened to colonel sanders? i bet he knows which came first, after all he did live to like 120 years old __________________ what is the mind? no matter. what is matter? never mind.

12-14-2004, 10:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
jibber Freeskier Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Istanbul was Constantinople now it's Istanbul not Constantinople... Posts: 1,536	well, it's not limited to a chicken egg specifically, so i'm going to say the egg, since there were dinosaur eggs long before there were chickens. And since I believe in evolution my take on it would be that the dinosaurs eventually evolved into chickens. __________________ What you've done becomes the judge of what you're going to do -- especially in other people's minds. When you're traveling, you are what you are right there and then. People don't have your past to hold against you. No yesterdays on the road. William Least Heat Moon, Blue Highways Your toughest competitor lives in your head. Some days his name is fear, or pain, or gravity. Stomp his ass. HOOKED ON THE WHITE POWDER

12-14-2004, 04:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
davidMC1982 Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sussex, UK Posts: 90	Depends on how you look at it. The question is too loosely defined to say either way. If you asked, "what came first, the chicken as we know it or the egg," the answer would unquestionably be the egg. You can only say the chicken if you allow previous generations of evolution to be counted as chickens. Of course, if you believe in creationism then the chicken certainly came first. Dave

12-14-2004, 07:17 PM	#4 (permalink)
davidMC1982 Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Sussex, UK Posts: 90	Except, if energy cannot be created nor destroyed, where did the chicken come from? I beleive the egg came first because of the genetic mutations that have to occur in nature for new species to be produced. These mutations would have occured in the egg, and as such, the egg came first. This only holds true with the caveat that the previous generation of evolution (whatever laid the egg) isn't classed as a chicken. Of course, the true answer is neither came first. The way evolution occurs over many millions of years means the line between the chicken/egg becomes blurred. Although, if you wanted to be really clever you could say neither; single cell organisms came first. Dave

12-15-2004, 09:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
covle Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: melbourne australia Posts: 334	colonel sanders....an icon. another icon...(only aussies will follow me)...hughey...from hugheys cooking adventures __________________ LIVE.LOVE.BURN.DIE. whoa...i quoted atreyu, that means im hardcore. look how hardcore i am!! thats hardcore...XXX