with regards to this lube talk, i wonder if guys like to penetrate holes that are with lubes, or without lubes?

a lubed hole is way better to penetrate than a dry one. A dry one is just uncomfortable to both parties involved.

It's like sandpaper. The penis is lucky to even get up half an inch when the vag is dry.

Yes.

if her vaginal secretions are there, ok

none? KY Jelly time

exactly and there might be some abrasion and small cuts might happen if a guy tries to keep forcing into a dry vag.

ok. right now, i'm grossed out. i can never really appreciate vaginas. what is it with holes that straight guys really like? but then again, to each their own i guess.

wait a min?

as a gay guy you don't like holes? :confused:

I dunno, cos I don't have one?

of course you do.

You have this thing called an asshole