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The Monkey 12-12-2011 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mighty Salami (Post 1130509)
I agree with that, tore. I think that the kind of person who'd believe "People like being raped" would be completely ignorant and oblivious to the way people think, but at the same time, from the number of rapings and cases of abuse we hear about, it is very likely that many people actually believe that this is the case. I imagine they will think that either as soon as they get going, the victim will realize how "fun" it is (I have no sympathy when the victim is a child), or that the victim's resistance makes sex more pleasurable, which of course it can't be.
I don't really know about hentai, since I'm too young and innocent to watch cartoon porn, but I'm guessing there's loads of rape in there. I could infer from that that the sort of people who watch hentai will start to see rape as normal and something insignificant. I would not underestimate the power that the media one engages with can recondition the way one thinks in the most horrible and depraved way.

I hardly think most rapists think that their victims actually enjoy the rape. Raping in most cases stems from a desire to exercise power over other people.

The Batlord 12-12-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by s_k (Post 1130645)
Batlord, do you know I still try your link to check if it's still a rickroll.
Dammit!

:laughing: GLORY!

Guybrush 12-12-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by The Monkey (Post 1131479)
I hardly think most rapists think that their victims actually enjoy the rape. Raping in most cases stems from a desire to exercise power over other people.

Well, in my post, I believe I called it wishful thinking.

It seems most rapists can be assigned to different categories depending on what their motives for rape is. Here's a quotation from the wikipedia article on causes of sexual violence.

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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Power rape

For these rapists, rape becomes a way to compensate for their underlying feelings of inadequacy and feeds their issues of mastery, control, strength, authority and capability. The intent of the power rapist is to assert their competency. The power rapist relies upon verbal threats, intimidation with a weapon, and only uses the amount of force necessary to subdue his victim.

The power rapists tends to have fantasies about sexual conquests and rape. They may believe that even though the victim initially resists them, that once they overpower their victim, the victim will eventually enjoy the rape. The rapist needs to believe that the victim enjoyed what was done to them, and they may even ask the victim to meet them for a date later.

Because this is only a fantasy, the rapist does not feel reassured for long by either their own performance or the victim's response. The rapist feels that they must find another victim, convinced that this victim will be "the right one". Hence, their offenses may become repetitive and compulsive. They may commit a series of rapes over a short period of time. This is the most common type of rapist in the United States.

They nurture a fantasy or idea that a person might like to be raped and this helps justify the violent act. I worry that rape pornography (like hentai where non-consensual sex is very common) can both make rape seem attractive to the viewers as well as support the fantasy that some women like to be raped.

s_k 12-12-2011 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1131492)
:laughing: GLORY!

Will you change the link to some Scarlett Johansson pics some day? :D

Salami 12-12-2011 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 1131501)
They nurture a fantasy or idea that a person might like to be raped and this helps justify the violent act. I worry that rape pornography (like hentai where non-consensual sex is very common) can both make rape seem attractive to the viewers as well as support the fantasy that some women like to be raped.

And in some cases, they believe that victim may be coaxed into enjoying it, somehow.

And when it comes to child rape, often, the rapist has no desire to exercise power as such. It comes from the desire to have sex with them regardless of the victim's feelings.

Phantom Limb 12-12-2011 05:10 PM


Thom Yorke 12-12-2011 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1131747)

:laughing: First thing I thought of when seeing this.

Salami 12-12-2011 05:18 PM

I don't feel like watching that. Probably end up stuck in my cache for ages.

Janszoon 12-12-2011 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phantom Limb (Post 1131747)

:laughing:

Freebase Dali 12-12-2011 05:51 PM

Haha.. he's funny because he looks like Janszoon.


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