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duga 05-26-2010 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 871802)
I know where you're coming from, as I certainly get the feeling that I don't exactly see eye-to-eye with a lot of people in a musical taste sense here myself. I don't really think I ever have, and that's not me trying to be a hipster or anything, but more a way of saying that I guess it depends how you use this place. I personally only use MB as a place to bring up music in a way that real life doesn't let me, seeing as it's very hard to find people who don't use music forums who have even slightly similar tastes to me. As far as that goes, I don't think this place will ever exhaust itself with me...at least as long as I keep feeling as passionate about music as I do. I do agree that it's definitely a pain in the arse if you wanna educate people around here though.

This exactly. Music is one of the largest parts of my life, and it gets very frustrating to be out in the world and not be able to talk about it in the depth that I want to. Even if I meet someone who likes a band that I know most people haven't really heard of, as soon as I go deeper and list off their influences and related bands I get nothing but a blank stare. This is like therapy just knowing there are people in the world who love music like I do...even if their tastes are completely different.

TheBig3 05-26-2010 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 871802)
Yeah, I get that feeling too, and I do remember it vaguely. I did join up around the time there was still the odd bit of that going on, back when Cobe Kai came here and Lucifer Sam would, frankly, have a tendency to act like a bit of a prick, and so on. I guess those things do liven up the boards and so on but, the fact is, there aren't even a lot of particularly abrasive people joining MB these days. About 99% of the posts I delete and bannings I give out are just for people who can't read the rules spamming some crap or other.

Cpt. Awesome was the most recent prick I recall.

Whats stimulating are fights. It qould require boths sides to at least be impassioned. But people run away from fights these days. I think in our best intentions, there would be passionate debate on issues. In reality it spills over onto the posters as well but the reason Pricks keep the place alive is that you can't always count on a douchebag to be a douchbag. Most folks just can't be bothered to fight.

Also, a word on similar tastes. I'd be bored to hell if everyone had the same taste as me, and I'd definitly go find another board. I didn't google Musical Tea Party, I googled music banter - and thats what I'm looking for.

Bulldog 05-26-2010 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 871812)
Cpt. Awesome was the most recent prick I recall.

Whats stimulating are fights. It qould require boths sides to at least be impassioned. But people run away from fights these days. I think in our best intentions, there would be passionate debate on issues. In reality it spills over onto the posters as well but the reason Pricks keep the place alive is that you can't always count on a douchebag to be a douchbag. Most folks just can't be bothered to fight.

Also, a word on similar tastes. I'd be bored to hell if everyone had the same taste as me, and I'd definitly go find another board. I didn't google Musical Tea Party, I googled music banter - and thats what I'm looking for.

Which is basically why I stick around.

As for Captain Awesome, yeah, the guy's a nobhead and no mistake but, as you say, people in general don't really feel inclined to to have a good old-fashioned scuffle around here these days. I remember Hiu (who to me just seemed an out-and-out bellend without any real interest in musical debate since he made his brief comeback), but other than that I can't recall any particularly aggressive members here stretching back at least a year. It's just a question of the kinds of people who sign up here and, obviously, there's nothing that can be done about that. I personally don't feel that that mindset's exactly dangerously detrimental to the MB experience if you will (I actually quite like it), but then again that's just the kinda person I am.

hissundaygirl09. 05-26-2010 11:54 AM

uhmm because they go downhill

right-track 05-26-2010 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulldog (Post 871816)
Which is basically why I stick around.

As for Captain Awesome, yeah, the guy's a nobhead and no mistake but, as you say, people in general don't really feel inclined to to have a good old-fashioned scuffle around here these days. I remember Hiu (who to me just seemed an out-and-out bellend without any real interest in musical debate since he made his brief comeback), but other than that I can't recall any particularly aggressive members here stretching back at least a year. It's just a question of the kinds of people who sign up here and, obviously, there's nothing that can be done about that. I personally don't feel that that mindset's exactly dangerously detrimental to the MB experience if you will (I actually quite like it), but then again that's just the kinda person I am.

Dickheads beget dickheads.
The tone of the forum over the past few years does nothing to encourage them.
Flaming and fights were commonplace when I joined this place, but the idiots were weeded out and the decent members were encouraged.
While it's not as amusing as it used to be back in the good old days, at least the content has improved and it's not the free for all it used to be.
Credit for that, goes to the moderators.

VEGANGELICA 05-26-2010 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tore (Post 871709)
It seems a significant portion of the people I have musical interests in common with have left the forums and they're not being replaced with new regulars. As an example, I would like to put some effort into making a Canterbury thread, but I fear it wouldn't generate much interest at all. That doesn't have to be because of lazyness, it's just a niche category with a relatively few amount of followers. We can't all like the same thing .. There used to be people here who would get excited about such a thread, but most of them disappeared.

I'd be interested in a Canterbury thread, Tore! In fact, I just learned of "Canterbury" music last week, I think, in the shoutbox while talking music with Anteater and Unchained Ballad. This is unfortunately a pretty one-sided music exchange and consists of me asking them for music suggestions, since I don't know a lot of music and thus have little to offer back, but I enjoy listening to and commenting on the songs for which they provide links, and they don't seem to mind offering them to me. It's a great way for me to listen to music I might never have considered...and is a nice way to get to know people a little better. So, start your "Canterbury" thread and I'll listen! :)

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 871805)
Music is one of the largest parts of my life...This is like therapy just knowing there are people in the world who love music like I do...even if their tastes are completely different.

Well said, duga.

jackhammer 05-26-2010 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3KilledMyRainDog (Post 871812)
Cpt. Awesome was the most recent prick I recall.

Whats stimulating are fights. It qould require boths sides to at least be impassioned. But people run away from fights these days. I think in our best intentions, there would be passionate debate on issues. In reality it spills over onto the posters as well but the reason Pricks keep the place alive is that you can't always count on a douchebag to be a douchbag. Most folks just can't be bothered to fight.

Also, a word on similar tastes. I'd be bored to hell if everyone had the same taste as me, and I'd definitly go find another board. I didn't google Musical Tea Party, I googled music banter - and thats what I'm looking for.


I can't fight with you as I'm a mod :(

mr dave 05-26-2010 06:42 PM

i think one of the biggest problems with forums and music in general is the difference between people who get what playing music is about (expression) and those who equate it to bands and albums (commerce).

it's like the difference between music (art) and musical taste (ego) - they are not one and the same. it takes time and effort to do the necessary soul searching to reach a point where one is fine with the fact that what you listen to doesn't actually matter for anything at all to anyone besides you.

discussing a band's discography is no different than discussing a restaurant's menu in my eyes. while entertaining at times, it's ultimately superfluous.

jackhammer 05-26-2010 07:04 PM

big 3 chickened out ;) :(

Sparky 05-26-2010 07:11 PM

your a mod again?


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