The Travel / Living Abroad Thread

Ronnie Jane Devo · 03-18-2010, 09:36 AM

I didn't see a thread of this sort upon searching, and it's something I like to talk about, so here it is. Discuss any plans, experiences or advice you have on travel and/or living abroad.

To start with, I'm thinking of jumping ship from the U.S. around June, and the destination that's currently at the top of my list is Melbourne, Australia. My first choice would actually be somewhere in Europe, but it seems that most of Europe has really strict work permit policies and that it would be hard for an outsider with no connections to find a (legal) job there. Australia, on the other hand, has massive immigration, a fantastic unemployment rate, widely spoken English, and a pretty nice climate to boot.

The main catch I've seen so far is that Australia's immigration site says I have to take a skill assessment before I can apply for a work visa, and the fee for the assessment is $400.00 AUD. That's just friggin' nuts, especially if there's a chance that my visa app won't even be accepted, and I really have to wonder if that's what the majority of Australia's 100K+/year of immigrants go through in order to get into the country. Anyone over there have any knowledge/experience with that? Sounds like your government is making a killing off of immigrants.

333 · 03-18-2010, 09:44 AM

Why don't you visit a few places first before you actually live there? If you like to travel, you should check out CouchSurfing - Participate in Creating a Better World, One Couch At A Time. Pure genius.

Ronnie Jane Devo · 03-18-2010, 09:59 AM

Well "visiting a few places" can get pretty expensive, and there really aren't a whole lot of places I'm interested in going that also seem realistically feasible (I'm ruling out the U.S. for one since I want to get a more unique experience out of this effort, and I also hate the government here), so Australia seems like a safe bet. If it's not all I hoped it would be, I can always move back. I may have to be there for a few months just to even find a job in the first place, so I'll probably have a chance to 'evaluate' it before making a final decision.

Oh, and I've seen CouchSurfing. It's a pretty awesome site indeed, and I might find it handy on my trip.

bubu · 03-18-2010, 10:16 AM

There are many countries in Europe in which English is the main language, fantastic over the roof unemployment rates and very nice climates indeed...the Mediterranean as always.

Italy, Spain, France(dunno if you'll stand the language) have many different ways of getting there with a job like from universities and the like.

Ronnie Jane Devo · 03-18-2010, 10:44 AM

I'd be interested in any of those countries, but I don't know any French or Italian. I have intermediate Spanish knowledge, but seeing as how Spain's unemployment rate is 19%... I can't see it being a very promising place to look for work. France and Italy certainly do not have "fantastic" unemployment rates either - 10.1% and 8.6% respectively.

Again, it seems like the way a lot of work permit policies are set up in Europe, an employer is expected to exhaust his options for EU-based job candidates before considering non-EU people. Not sure how it is in those three countries specifically, though.

I could always join the French Foreign Legion of course, but... no.

lucifer_sam · 03-18-2010, 11:28 AM

I was actually on tenterhooks about living in New South Wales this summer (winter now that I think on it) for a program in my major, but it's just too damn costly to move there without some sort of financial support for any amount of time.

Last I checked plane tickets were between 1200-1700 USD, utterly absurd to pay that much unless you have a real reason to stay within the country.

Ronnie Jane Devo · 03-18-2010, 11:58 AM

Yeah, between immigration fees and airfare I would be out quite a lot of money in attempting to move there... especially if I were going to make the occasional trip back home to see family. That makes it a pretty tough call.

WWWP · 10-12-2013, 12:32 PM

Bump.

I'm planning a solo trip for my birthday this coming February. Any MB residents from/familiar with Indianapolis willing to help me out?

Dr_Rez · 10-12-2013, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkyard Donner

Bump.

I'm planning a solo trip for my birthday this coming February. Any MB residents from/familiar with Indianapolis willing to help me out?

I would recommend not visiting Indianapolis and choosing another city.

WWWP · 10-12-2013, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs

I would recommend not visiting Indianapolis and choosing another city.

Funny, but it has to be Indianapolis. It's a Kurt Vonnegut inspired pilgrimage of sorts.

03-18-2010, 09:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ronnie Jane Devo moon shoes Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 57	The Travel / Living Abroad Thread I didn't see a thread of this sort upon searching, and it's something I like to talk about, so here it is. Discuss any plans, experiences or advice you have on travel and/or living abroad. To start with, I'm thinking of jumping ship from the U.S. around June, and the destination that's currently at the top of my list is Melbourne, Australia. My first choice would actually be somewhere in Europe, but it seems that most of Europe has really strict work permit policies and that it would be hard for an outsider with no connections to find a (legal) job there. Australia, on the other hand, has massive immigration, a fantastic unemployment rate, widely spoken English, and a pretty nice climate to boot. The main catch I've seen so far is that Australia's immigration site says I have to take a skill assessment before I can apply for a work visa, and the fee for the assessment is $400.00 AUD. That's just friggin' nuts, especially if there's a chance that my visa app won't even be accepted, and I really have to wonder if that's what the majority of Australia's 100K+/year of immigrants go through in order to get into the country. Anyone over there have any knowledge/experience with that? Sounds like your government is making a killing off of immigrants. __________________ Last.fm

03-18-2010, 09:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Ronnie Jane Devo moon shoes Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 57	Well "visiting a few places" can get pretty expensive, and there really aren't a whole lot of places I'm interested in going that also seem realistically feasible (I'm ruling out the U.S. for one since I want to get a more unique experience out of this effort, and I also hate the government here), so Australia seems like a safe bet. If it's not all I hoped it would be, I can always move back. I may have to be there for a few months just to even find a job in the first place, so I'll probably have a chance to 'evaluate' it before making a final decision. Oh, and I've seen CouchSurfing. It's a pretty awesome site indeed, and I might find it handy on my trip. __________________ Last.fm

03-18-2010, 10:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ronnie Jane Devo moon shoes Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 57	I'd be interested in any of those countries, but I don't know any French or Italian. I have intermediate Spanish knowledge, but seeing as how Spain's unemployment rate is 19%... I can't see it being a very promising place to look for work. France and Italy certainly do not have "fantastic" unemployment rates either - 10.1% and 8.6% respectively. Again, it seems like the way a lot of work permit policies are set up in Europe, an employer is expected to exhaust his options for EU-based job candidates before considering non-EU people. Not sure how it is in those three countries specifically, though. I could always join the French Foreign Legion of course, but... no. __________________ Last.fm

03-18-2010, 11:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
lucifer_sam Unrepentant Ass-Mod Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 3,921	I was actually on tenterhooks about living in New South Wales this summer (winter now that I think on it) for a program in my major, but it's just too damn costly to move there without some sort of financial support for any amount of time. Last I checked plane tickets were between 1200-1700 USD, utterly absurd to pay that much unless you have a real reason to stay within the country. __________________ first.am

03-18-2010, 11:58 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ronnie Jane Devo moon shoes Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Virginia Posts: 57	Yeah, between immigration fees and airfare I would be out quite a lot of money in attempting to move there... especially if I were going to make the occasional trip back home to see family. That makes it a pretty tough call. __________________ Last.fm

03-18-2010, 09:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
333 Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 965	Why don't you visit a few places first before you actually live there? If you like to travel, you should check out CouchSurfing - Participate in Creating a Better World, One Couch At A Time. Pure genius.

03-18-2010, 10:16 AM	#4 (permalink)
bubu Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 112	There are many countries in Europe in which English is the main language, fantastic over the roof unemployment rates and very nice climates indeed...the Mediterranean as always. Italy, Spain, France(dunno if you'll stand the language) have many different ways of getting there with a job like from universities and the like.