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bogey_j 07-01-2010 07:30 AM

I Just Realized Something..
 
every girl I know whose name is Ashley or Amber is a whore. This may seem like a completely pointless and meaningless observation, and it probably is, but hear me out: can a person's name influence their behavior? Personally, I think a person's name has significant psychosocial effects on one's life. This article has to do with names influencing behavior, check it out:

Odd names turn boys bad - oddstuff | Stuff.co.nz

Guybrush 07-01-2010 10:18 AM

That's a horrible name for that article because it suggests the names are causative.

Probably a name can and will influence behaviours, but such studies are riddled with problems. First there could be a problem with statistics - if you compared names to criminal records on a group of people, the chances are you would see a pattern even if names and criminal records were completely independent. That's because randomness creates patterns. To avoid patterns from randomness, you need a lot of samples - so a lot of people - but of course there are more Thomases and Lisas than there are Brohms and Gandalfs, so then some names may still be slightly vulnerable for random effects in the study and how do you compare a name which only belongs to 10 people compared to one which belongs to 1000? You might take out a random 10 out of those 1000 so that the amount is more comparable, but then you could get random effect problems again.

The people doing such studies are likely aware and good at that sort of stuff and can probably deal with those kind of problems, but then you have the bigger problem of hidden variables. How many caucasian white people in the US are called Kareem or Tyrell? Names are not evenly "dispersed" over the population. F.ex some ethnic groups will like some while another ethnic groups will gravitate towards others. Factors, hidden variables, which stem from these differences may seep into the names study and make it seem like the names are causal of the social characteristics.

The people studying this are probably aware of this as well so I think the biggest problems / misunderstandings come from journalists getting their grubby hands and thoughts over studies like these :p: I mean, one of the main researchers from the study seems to think names are not causal (just correlate with other things that are), but that didn't stop the moron who wrote up the article from calling it "Odd names turn boys bad" :rolleyes: Shows real stupidity and a lack of respect to the researchers in my opinion!

mr dave 07-01-2010 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 892903)
"Odd names turn boys bad" :rolleyes: Shows real stupidity and a lack of respect to the researchers in my opinion!

agreed.

odd names don't turn the boy bad, all the ridiculing, disrespect, and derision he has to endure while growing up because he had an odd name though...

also the biggest slut i knew was a 'Crystal'

Guybrush 07-01-2010 12:01 PM

I don't know girls with these names, so I had to go with gut feeling which may come part from 80s flicks with high school kids in'em like in so many 80s horror films, but .. I thought Kimberly seemed a bit more slutty than the rest.

TheCunningStunt 07-01-2010 12:04 PM

Well, a name doesn't have a bearing on their behaviour, but if a person's parents call their kid Crystal then they're bound to grow up to be a bit of a slag.

Sansa Stark 07-01-2010 12:07 PM

or Diamond or Princess
I knew a MyAngel once

Tea Supremacist 07-01-2010 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tore (Post 892903)
That's a horrible name for that article because it suggests the names are causative.

Back when I was young (;)) I did a study on something a little similar to this in sociology and what we found was that it wasn't the names that specifically led to bad behaviour. You had to look at class (touchy subject, I know, but I've started now). If you look at things broadly, generally speaking crime is commited mostly by people of a 'lower class'. I know there are exceptions to every rule, but as I said, this is generally speaking. What we found when we studied this was that a different class of people call their children a different class of name (again, exceptions to a rule, broadly speaking). So, in theory, Darren, Charmaine, Wayne, Liam and Chantelle from a 'low class' background' are more likely to come into contact with trouble/crime than Daniel, Matthew, Gemma (;)), James, Samuel and Alexandra from a 'middle class' background.

Sorry if I've included someones name and offended them - this was just a rule of thumb and they're not always concrete!

But the point was that I don't think it's the name as such that will lead to bad behaviour. It's just in certain groups (like criminals!) some names are more common than others.

TheBig3 07-01-2010 12:32 PM

I'd loe to hear bunglaowbill's impression on this one.

Scarlett O'Hara 07-02-2010 12:23 AM

Haha here's me thinking Tiffany!

boo boo 07-02-2010 12:34 AM

That has to be the most retarded study ever


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