Sinead managed to pull it off at a time when nobody was doing it, and she was a real oddity.

But she did have the advantage of being more of an artist, and having that whole mystical Irish image. And the media was much more fair to Sinead, at least before the whole Pope picture thing. When she first came on the scene, journalists wanted to understand it and explain her shaved head. Today, and especially with Britney, the prevailing brand of journalism is not to understand and explain, but to interpret in the most provocative way and support with any source who'll go on the record.

One thing Sinead and Britney do have in common: in the late 80s/early 90s, every woman with a shaved head "looked just like Sinead" even if there was no resemblance other than gender and lack of hair.

That's probably the most frustrating thing for an acomophile. People who aren't into it don't really even look closely or give much thought to a bald woman when they see one. There's either a knee-jerk "yuck" response, the "not everybody could pull that off" response (if they like it but don't want to admit it looks good), or a superficial comparison to some bald celebrity, which is like saying "they all look alike."

I think your straightforward way of viewing a partner doing something nice for you shows perhaps that you are very confident in your relationship. If you felt inadequate or insecure, then you might assume your partner didn't care for you that much if she showed SO MUCH gusto for whatever change she had requested you make to yourself.

I don't know if sex and love are entwined more in the female mind than a male mind. I haven't seen evidence of this in males or females I've known. Some women really just wanted the thrill of sex with men they were dating; some men invest a lot of emotion into sex and feel it is very meaningful.

Boo boo - why do you recognize and wish the pressure on women to have long head hair would stop, yet you seem happy to continue the pressure on women to shave their legs, saying that keeping body hair is like being a caveman? Why is pressure on women to feel bad about themselves bad in one instance but not in the other?

The media always picked on Sinead for being weird and of course her baldness led to a lot of speculation that she was a lesbian, which ended up being kinda true. Maybe back then it was considered just a lesbian thing but today enough women do it that you can't really pin that kind of stereotype on it anymore.

I also hate the "few women can pull it off" response, how in the hell would these people know that? Do they see bald women often to make comparison? No it's just something they already had made up in their minds. From my experience any attractive women who shaves her head comes out looking better, I can't think of any exceptions to the rule. I agree that it's because baldness has a weird way of emphasizing other features, the shape of a woman's head and neck, even ears, they are often distinct from how a man's look and thus these are just other feminine features. Features that are obscured by hair.

And yeah I hate how people now have to use Britney spears as the reference point for every f*cking bald women they see. Sh*t some people are so stupid they might point at a woman with alopecia and say she's copying Britney Spears. It's embarassing to be part of the same species as these people.

I'm not putting pressure on you or anyone for not shaving your legs, all I ever said is that I prefer smooth legs and that's just my aesthetic preference, but one shared by many men that can't be avoided. You might be offended by that but you shouldn't care what I think and thus I don't care if people find bald women ugly just as long as they aren't total pricks about it which they often are.

I'm discouraging any woman from not shaving their legs if that's what they want that's fine.

I'm merely defending women who do choose to do it and why they do it and why men find it preferable and why making yourself sexually presentable is natural, acceptable and common with both sexes.

In regards to the bald issue, I'm not discouraging any woman from keeping their hair, I accept most women love their hair and think that's fine. I just think hair as a feminine symbol is an overrated concept, but not an evil one that should be completely eliminated from society, I believe in freedom of choice. If you recall, I once made a thread about a website of environmentalists who were making a statement by shaving their heads and I was strongly critical of their "if you don't do it you're a bad guy" mentality.

On this issue I'm just challenging a lot of the ideas people have about hair and female baldness. It's not a campaign against hair, just a celebration of an alternative look that doesn't get proper respect. And lets not forget that some women don't have a choice, women with alopecia are made to feel like deformed freaks and the media's attitude doesn't help.

Hypocritically you'll see a lot of ads and promos for charities like Locks of Love (which is fraud btw) which sends a rather mixed message, people act like giving alopecians wigs is like curing some kind of f*cking disease, yes it helps them with their self esteem but why is that? Because people are jerks who will mock someone even if they have a medical condition. Many people with alopecia are otherwise healthy individuals, it's not a life threatening condition (though it's sometimes caused by something that is), with the worst side effect being how people react to it.

And when I watch crappy talk shows like Tyra Banks give alopecians wigs and "sexy" makeovers instead of encouraging them to be themselves, I find it pretty sickening. If more women sported the bald look, alopecians wouldn't stand out so much and they wouldn't have to wear a wig if they didn't want to. That's not an attempt at a guilt trip or anything. But it's yet another reason I love women who embrace the look because it becomes empowering for every bald woman.

Sorry I'm veering off topic. But yeah. I don't oppose your choice Vegan, only the attitude you have with other women who choose the other option. I believe you can make a statement out of your hairy legs without trying to guilt trip women into making the same choice as you and telling them their choice is a wrong choice.

I don't think women with hair are giving in to oppression or anything like that, I know going bald isn't something every chick wants to do. I feel they deserve the option though. They have it just as women have the option not to shave their legs but in both cases ridicule is bound to happen.

But my way of promoting it is by trying to give insight on why I find it attractive and why it deserves to be accepted as a fashion choice. That's what I'm doing instead of telling you and the other girls to straight up shave your heads and calling you conformist slaves for not wanting to do it. Nor am I telling women they are irrational for having hair and they're not being true to themselves or the cause of feminism if they decide to keep it.

Besides I have a better suggestion. I've told you about rule 34 right? I have a suggestion for you, visit a website called rabbitsreviews.com, look up the table of contents and click on "hairy". You will be intrigued by the results. :pimp:

Well you don't have to get into porn but if you want to find people who can appreciate your hairy gams, becoming a hairy fetish model could be the way to go. :thumb:

Something to do part time when you're not busy doing scientist stuff lol.

I get reactions now as a male having a shaved head so for a female to have a shaved head is even more 'odd' to look upon.

I'm not saying it's right at all. I have been called a fascist and a Nazi in my time just because I shave my head so for a woman to have a look that is so diametrically opposed to the classic 'female look' freaks people out.

I talked to a woman once at my place of work who wore a head scarf due to chemotherapy she was having (hence bald) and I managed to convince her that there is nothing wrong whatsoever in looking that way and a few days later she came back without the headscarf which made me so happy for her and she herself said that she felt liberated. Good for her.

It's easy to judge people on first impressions and we all do it but I have found that the people worth knowing are those who make a mockery of that inbuilt initial prejudice.

That is such a sweet thing for you to do, I'm really impressed.

I've been lucky that my overall look doesn't lend itself to the Nazi stereotype, although I have, on one or two occasions, had people assume I was the owner of a nearby Harley.:rolleyes:

I have heard someone describe a woman shaving her head as the equivalent of a man opting to wear a dress for several weeks, in terms of both people's reactions to her and the level of anxiety and self-consciousness she would have about it. I'm not sure I agree entirely, but it is a good thing to keep in mind when suggesting the idea to a reluctant wife or girlfriend, and it does make one appreciate the bravery of those women who do go out in public completely bald.

That's so weird. I wonder if the people who said that think Seal is a Nazi too?

A good friend of mine shaved her head to raise money for cancer. Until her hair grew in long enough for a "pixie cut" type style, she got a LOT of strange looks. Some were pitying, as if assuming she had cancer or alopecia, other's just stared at her as if she were a zoo animal, it was pretty eye opening.

My older brother also shaved his head to raise money for cancer, but he did it with his entire high school football team. The group of them got a LOT of looks, but they were more apprehensive and nervous looks. They were all well over 6 feet tall, and most of them pretty bulked up despite only being in high school. My brother just thought it was funny.

I'm really surprised to hear about guys getting looks for having a shaved head. It's a pretty common thing around these parts, especially for guys with thinning hair.

I think it was more the fact that it was a group of 15-20 guys walking around after the fact, all VERY tall, quite large, and all with shaved heads rather than the actual baldness :)

About hair and stuff, that people should accept hair although the norm is shaving ..

I wonder what guys here would think if we turned the scenario around a bit. Let's say you meet a guy who you can tell shaves his legs. Perhaps he wears shorts and you just happen to notice his baby butt calves. Would it influence your opinion of this person in a positive or a negative way? Or would you not care at all?

I'll just be honest and say that for me, a guy shaving his legs would be pretty bad ;)

Eh. I had a friend who used to shave his legs, I didn't really have an opinion about it one way or the other.

I have a friend who used to pretty much shave his entire body. He was by no means effeminate. He was a soldier, in fact. But he was also pretty seriously into bodybuilding. He never competed or anything, but for a while he was shaving down to better show off his definition, just like the pros do.

I think that's why I don't read much into a guy shaving his body or leg hair. I was always a fan of Schwarzenegger, Ferrigno and that bunch, and they did it. But even if he isn't a bodybuilder, what does it really matter if a guy doesn't want hair on his body?

Myself, I prefer to have a bald head, and I've been shaving it for so long that I not only find baldness normal and pleasant, but any amount of stubble is decidedly unpleasant. I don't like hair on my head. But I'm hairy everywhere else, and almost never without some kind of a goatee, Van Dyck, chin puff or other beard.

But if a guy wants to shave his legs or his armpits, or every square inch except eyelashes and nose hair, good for him. It doesn't mean anything other than he likes how it looks and feels. And if I want to be an advocate of female head shaving, it would be kind of hypocritical to oppose men shaving their legs if they want to.

That I can understand. One person with a shaved head could be nothing, but if it's several people, then something is obviously up. And when it's a bunch of big, tough-looking guys, odds are it's either a sports team or a gang of some sort.

I recall when my wife shaved her head, she didn't mind going out in public without a hat, but only when I wore a hat. If I didn't wear one, she put one on. That was because while she wasn't too embarrassed about being bald, she thought the two of us bald together in public would look a little strange. I hadn't thought of that, but it made perfect sense to me.

When she was wearing the buzz, and I was bald, that looked perfectly natural. Both bald together seemed weird - like the family with the matching tshirts taken way too far. In private, it was fantastic though.

Well, bodybuilders, swimmers and the like have an excuse perhaps ;) Aside from possibly being a bit prejudiced, I think us guys should enjoy that we can get by fine in society without make up, cream in our hair and shaved legs .. at least in Norway. There's a whole industry who would love all that to become the trend norm so they could make cash from selling beauty products to men - and they're pushing it.

In the place I'm from, guys my age and up seem pretty resistant to this sort of stuff. I don't know many guys who really spend much time on their looks, f.ex by shaving legs and using male beauty products, but it seems some of that is becoming the standard with teenagers.

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That's wonderful Lee.

As anyone can guess I'm not a fan of hairiness. I'm not gonna judge a guy who doesn't shave his legs but wears shorts and sandals for example, but I think it's ugly as all f*ck and there's nothing wrong with thinking something is unappealing to look at, it's just about how you treat people because of it.

You can have a great friend in somebody without wanting to f*ck them.

But yeah if a guy did like you said I'd have no problem with it, I think it looks better than not shaving at all.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to look a certain way. Even if it's deemed unnatural.

The thing is people deem headshaving on women unnatural even though it's not any more unnatural than men doing it. I of course disagree with Vegan about something being wrong just because it isn't natural.

Getting tattoos are not natural, or getting piercings, or putting makeup on your face or cutting your hair or shaving your beard but these are all choices people have. We're not cavemen, we shouldn't be confined to certain things because of how nature intended. What sets us apart from other animals is that we have free will, we don't have to do things purely on instinct.

But unless you ARE Grizley Adams living in the wilderness, it's best that you shut your mouth about things being unnatural because we all do something unnatural.

I can go on (and I have) about why I find bald women more attractive than women with hair but I don't even have to justify it, it's just my preference, we all have prerences of our own. Instead of thinking it's such a f*cking bummer that people aren't exactly the same we should embrace the fact that we're all different.

It's corny to say but that's how it is, if we all embraced ourselves and what makes us unique from others instead of constantly comparing things and defining them by what's normal and what isn't we'd all be better off.

Well you're a bald guy who loves bald chicks. That's more consistant than a long haired guy who loves bald chicks I guess. But a lot of bald guys love long haired chicks and don't dig bald chicks so how many people can you call "consistant" anyway?

Whenever I see a couple and they both have shaved heads I think it's cute, even romantic. My initial reaction is usually "awwww". :love:

I find that a lot of guys with this fetish tend to sport the look themselves but in a weirdly ironic way I actually love having long hair myself, though eventually headshaving is something I will try at least once, and is likely what I'll do if I ever start losing my hair. People who do it tend to love it and have the opinion that everyone should try it at least once.

But if I ever get a girl to shave her head and she doesn't like it I'll cover her hair with mine to make her feel better. =D

This one girl told me that being bald would make her feel like being a baby. I never got that. Being bald only makes you look like you're a baby if you're really fat. :laughing:

No argument there. Shave, shower, brush teeth, apply deodorant is about as complicated as my grooming ritual gets, and that's the way I like it. Likewise, I have a few fairly similar garments in my closet, mostly in black, white and grey. Shaving my head is the only place I do anything extra, and it's a trade-off with combing and haircuts.

Personally, I find the modern-day dandies to be a bit difficult to relate to. I don't generally trust a guy who obviously puts a lot of effort into his appearance, but that's more because I usually see those guys in banking, insurance or sales, and it becomes part of a whole smarmy vibe, and a general distrust of the businesses they work for.

That said, I don't think removing body hair should be equated with metrosexuality. I don't agree with either gender wasting too much time and money serving personal vanity or living up to someone else's ideal image, particularly men, who, as you say, aren't expected to do so. But they're free to do what they want with their appearance, and I will try not to let that influence my opinion of them. I've encountered plenty of metros who were yuppy a**holes, but some were nice guys once you got past the meticulous grooming.

As for somebody who just feels tidier or more attractive without hair on his legs, chest or wherever, or just gets some personal enjoyment from removing it, I say more power to him. I totally support that. I'm also inclined to agree with boo boo, at least as far as a guy with a totally smooth body is easier to look at than a guy with a built-in sweater. But as a straight guy, it doesn't really make that much difference to me.

I'm curious to know, how many people close to you know about your acomo thing and do they pick on ya for it?

It's not something I share with anyone IRL, and on the net I've been called a repressed homosexual on some occasions. :laughing:

I think that's so nice. It's one thing to be bald through choice - I've always maintained that if you make a choice to look different then you have to put up with the odd looks and cruel comments (unfortunately). But when it's not through choice, it's the worst thing to be mocked for it.

I had a similar thing. I shaved my head once - Actually, I was very drunk and watching the scene from Empire Records where Deb shaves her head and it seemed like a good idea at the time - when I woke up in the morning I decided to go and rinse money out of people for doing it and donated it to the hospital looking after my Uncle, a cancer sufferer. Anyways, the looks I got were like nothing I've experienced before! I'm used to comments, being pierced, tattooed, having weird hair colours etc, but having a shaved head (not even 'proper' bald - just as short as a set of clippers can go, a bit of stubble) was a total eye opener. I got accused of being a lesbian. I had a woman tell her child to get away from me after I threw a ball back to him. I had someone ask me outright if my chemo was going ok. It was surreal!

Saying that, if it weren't for my job I'd go back to having a clipper job done any day. So practical :)

I assume lot of chicks do it once, loved it, but don't do it again because they didn't like how people react. Is that close to the truth?

I f*cking hate people so much. I also hate Youtube because I do search it all the time for bald chick stuff and the comments people leave are just excruciating.

It's just the idea that people can't grasp because it's so alien to them. I've yet to see someone give a reason why bald women are ugly that actually makes sense to me.

They look like dudes?: No they don't. Women look like women the goddamn hair is not what makes a woman a woman without it she is gonna look like a woman. Only woman that looks like a dude bald is a woman that looks like a dude with hair.

They look like big babies?: Only if they're fat.

They look like cancer patients?: Why don't people ever say this about bald men? And they don't. Cancer patients look sickly. Simply being bald isn't gonna make you look sickly.

They look like lesbians?: There are lesbians with hair too. The lesbians that shave their heads tend to be rather butch. If you're an otherwise feminine woman and people think you're a lesbian just because you're bald then they're stupid.

They look like neo nazis?: I think only the male neo nazis shave their heads but I could be wrong. Still stupid though. It's actually more reasonable to believe any guy with a shaved head could be a neo nazi, which is also stupid of course.

They look like aliens?: Have you seen an alien? No. I do think it's alien in that it's not normal. Which is a part of it's appeal.

Speaking of aliens Baldy. I remember that in your blog you mention Gene Roddenberry being a possible acomophile and now that i think about it that makes perfect sense.

Star Trek: The Motion Picture wasn't a great movie, but I loved it's positive depiction of the Lt. Lila character and how this bald chick could be hot and everybody wanted to bang her. I can't think of any mainstream movie before or since where a bald chick was depicted as being sexually desirable to men.

At this point, my wife knows, and a few others probably suspect it. It's one of those things - I no longer think it's weird, I doubt anyone would be too freaked out by it, I'm sure some people figured it out on their own, and I actually like to talk about it, but it's still scary. There's still that fear of being thought of as some kind of a pervert.

On the net, I'm always glad to find a good discussion, and it isn't easy. A lot of the boards I used to like have gotten neglected or spammed to death or trolled out of existence, and not every acomophile has the same viewpoint. Some get off on any woman with a bald head, including cancer patients and French collaborators from the 40s. Some are into shaving women's heads as a punishment and submission thing. I don't believe they find it beautiful or powerful; just the opposite. And there are some who just want to swap pictures, link to video clips and discuss who looks hot, without the discussion going any deeper than that.

Believe it or not, boo boo, you are the most like-minded acomophile I've run across in a long time, so I'm enjoying this discussion a lot. If I could find a few more of us, I'd probably start up a well-moderated acomo board over at my site.

If you ever find a copy of The Making of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, by Roddenberry and Susan Sackett, check out some of the character guidelines Gene wrote about Ilia and Deltans in general. Descriptions of her "breathtakingly beautiful" face and her "smooth, slender bare head with the sensual quality of delicately sculptured nudity, always hidden before in other women," plus all of the stuff about Deltans, their sex-based culture and their women being dangerously attractive to human males. I've heard that sort of thing before, and it is definitely an acomophile writing that.

I've also seen a photo of Gene posing with the newly-shaved Persis, sporting a big, cheesy grin. I've seen that picture before too, when guys who make head shaving videos all line up to have their picture taken next to the bald woman.

I'm pretty sure the whole purpose of creating the character of Ilia was to show people how attractive bald women are. In some ways, it was a success. I don't know that Ilia changed the way society looks at bald women, but she certainly stirred up feelings in some of us that we might not have been aware of. If nothing else, she provided adolescent acomophiles with something to jack off to. :D

That sounds groovy, if you ever start a forum I'd be happy to participate.

Yeah I'm a bit of a Trekkie myself and I sometimes visit the Star Trek encylopedia, I remember reading the article about the Deltan race and reading these descriptions, the author sounded like he was turning himself on. :laughing:

There's also a vid of when Persis shaved her head, afterwards she was greeted by Gene himself, and he gave her a present which was an electric razor which I think was his way of saying "please keep it this way". I dunno weither to think this was sweet of him or creepy, or both.

Natalie is what got me really into it (I still wish she did it the smooth way, always how I prefer it) but I think the first time it actually turned me on was when I watched the Star Trek movie at like 14 or whatever. Not only did it turn me into an acomo it got me more into Star Trek too. :D

I'm also quite into Indian women, they tend to be especially stunning when sporting the look, like Glenda Narulla and Diandra Soares.

See, boo boo, we are similar in one respect because here you are being critical of how people tell women they need to have head hair to be beautiful...yet that is exactly what I'm doing (but in reverse) with body hair issues: I want people to not have to feel they must *get rid* of their body hair to be "acceptable" and feel good about themselves. One reason I don't shave is to empower women who keep their hair and don't want to feel bad about themselves.

I'm not trying to guilt-trip them; I'm trying to point out that shaving implicitly tells other women that there is something wrong with them, just like Locks of Love implicitly tells women that being bald is something to cover up and be ashamed of. Or like Tyra Banks implicitly tells women with alopecea that they aren't okay as they are by offering to make them "more beautiful" with wigs and make-up.

I would never desire to be a hairy fetish model, boo boo. I feel it would be too humiliating to intentionally put myself on display for the general public as if I were trying to win their approval or be seen as attractive by strangers like women often do. That's one aspect of porn that I don't like: it is people prostrating themselves to try to be appealing to others.

If I ever become a hairy fetish model, it will only occur as a side-effect of photos I take to celebrate my hair (yeay, hair!) in a non-sexual way. I actually don't want to find people who appreciate my hairy gams...I want to find people who treat me like a human first, with gender issues secondary. Although becoming a "Hairy Scientist" porn star would be amusing!

Yes but I'm not trying to make women who don't shave their heads feel bad.


That is guilt tripping them, if a woman shaves her legs like many here do you're holding them responsible for the low self esteem of others. This is just unfair, that's like telling me I have to shave my head because it makes guys with alopecia or male patern baldness feel bad and that's just stupid.

I believe in free choice. I don't believe people should be forced to do/not do things out of fashion, but I also don't believe people should be forced to do/not do things out of some percieved moral responsibility. That is what religion does and your attitude isn't much friendler IMO.

I oppose moral absolutism pretty strongly.

I was joking sheesh, I know you wouldn't be into that. :laughing:

I think in regards to porn, more and more people are being more openminded about it. I know people have the viewpoint that putting your naked body on display turns you into an object and that it's enslaving yourself blah blah. I understand that viewpoint somewhat.

I just see it differently and I don't see sexuality as being enslaving at all, unless it's something committed by force, but in porn nobody is being forced to do anything, they might pretend but it's just pretend. I think sexuality is a great thing. I'm not really that into porn but I no longer feel guilty when I invest some interest in it. I don't see people selling their bodies for money as being any more dehumanizing as artists selling their work for money, we're all striving to give away a part of us in some way or another.

We're all attention whores we just go about it in different ways. I whore myself by going on about topics like this. :D

I've come to believe the objectification happens on the viewing end. Someone who seriously views women in porn as objects probably doesn't have much respect for women to begin with. Someone with a healthy amount of empathy, even when using a person's image as a visual aid for masturbation (let's not kid ourselves, that's the primary use of porn), is going to understand on some level that it is an image of a real person. It's not any different from separating an actor in a movie from the part they play - some people have an easier time of it than others.

I've checked out some material in the past, and I can honestly say that the most impersonal and objectifying magazines or videos do nothing for me.

A few adult magazines in the early 90s tried to branch out into acomo porn. Possibly too small a niche, because those titles are no longer around. But of all the models, the most interesting was Stevi Secret. Everybody else got a phony name and a dumb story with their photo set, but Stevi was a real person, with her own adult video company. She used the magazine as a platform to promote her business, marketed videos of her photo shoots, and wrote a regular column. She was the best, because she was real and she was smart. She actually stayed bald for the better part of a couple of years, and was something of a star among acomophiles. Stevi is still in business, but she went more mainstream years ago. More money in that. Her videos are still available though.

Same thing with the shaving videos that aren't porn in the conventional sense of the word. I used to have a few of those when I was single. Actually, I'm allowed to have them now, but it doesn't seem right to keep more than one or two around at any given time. Anyway, the ones where they try to act out a story do nothing for me. I find those just dumb. And the ones where the model just sits there and gets shaved are boring.

The most interesting, for me, were the haircut.net videos. This middle-aged guy and his wife, just your average suburban parents, with a little studio set up in their garage, making videos. Always seemed like the ultimate example of a wife participating in her husband's fetish. She does most of the clipping, and seems to handle the orders. They don't release much new material these days, but they've made hundreds of videos together, with ordinary women who answer an ad in the newspaper.

What I find really appealing about these videos, is that they are very casual. Many of the models are women who wanted to do it anyway, and the opportunity to make a few bucks gave them an excuse. Their reactions are genuine, and throughout the video, model and barber chat about anything and everything. Music, TV shows, kids, work, hobbies, why they decided to get shaved and what they're feeling, how they think people might react. I find that much more of a turn-on, precisely because the models are not objectified.

Now the Chinese are getting into the act, and cranking out cheap VOD acomo titles by the carload. Not only do the models say and do relatively little, you can't understand a word anybody says. Not really my cup of tea.

I'm actually planning an article on the history of acomo erotica. I just have to get around to writing it.

I'm not into porn where headshaving is used as an act of humilation and such which is usually how it is when headshaving is involved, it's only arousing when both parties take pleasure in the act.

I hate when stories in porn drag on and they're rarely done very well, but build up and tiltilation is definitely preferable than just straight up doing it right off the bat.

Oh jeez I'm going off topic here. Well yeah. Hairnet is a neat site though I don't order anything off the internet, and I stopped visiting that site when they removed all the actual images of headshaving. :(

I have a thing for asians too so I'm actually into some of the asian sites (Fhaircut in particular which has some really lovely models and is thankfully easy to navigate) though some models show an alarming lack of ehthusiasm, at least they don't look bummed out, but enthusiasm is a bigger turn on.

A personal favorite of mine is that LoverBald guy's livejournal which is updated daily with all kinds of new content, videos, pictures, occasional porn links. =D

Anyway here are my opinions on other acomo sites.

Bald is Beautiful on Women: Well I don't know if this counts as a true acomo site but it's easy to see why it's popular among us acomos. Instead of models it specializes in normal everyday women who sport the look. I keep a little folder of bald women that I started a long time ago and this site is a source of a lot of it heh. Is that creepy? I guess so.

RedLiteFetishHairDistict: This was the first site I came across when I started getting into bald chicks, it's pretty much packed with links, if there is something on the internet that has anything to do with bald chicks, you will find a link to it here. Pretty cool. NSFW though.

Extremehaircut: This one is pretty obviously geared towards acomos and has some pornographic content. The models tend to show enthusiasm and as long as it doesn't get too freaky (and it has) I like it. The "Haircut Fetish News" section has tons of updates and pics and stuff.

BaldBeauties: Waaaaay too sleazy for me and some of the models are just fugly.

BaldGirlz: Sites with paid membership I can't give too much of an opinion about. Kat Surth is a smart girl for realizing the untapped potential of this fetish and I'm guessing she's made a small fortune off of it. Don't really find her attractive though.

Kumimonster: A fetish model who does a whole lot of things, sometimes she does things that are a little gross or too out there but overall I like her a lot.

Futurecuts: I enjoy the video clips that end up on YouTube so much I have no desire to buy the whole things. Isn't there controversy surrounding this site though? I remember one woman claiming that they decieved her about the content of the site and didn't know it was for some fetish thing. Well they did something because the site is suspended now.

Youtube is probably the best site however if you're an acomophile, you'll just have to ignore the stupid rants of people who have nothing better to do than look up links of women shaving their heads just to bitch about how ugly it is.

Bald is Beautiful on Women is a good site, and the owner's a good guy. He wants to present a positive image for female baldness, make it safer for the masses.

Redlite used to be a big photo trading site in the mid-90s. Share a few pics from your collection in exchange for your choice of what Miles, the owner, had accumulated there. It was always a link site, but that seems to have taken over, and nothing seems to have been taken off the site since it was started. Mostly, I think it's there to catch traffic for ads these days.

Extremehaircut wasn't too choosy about who and what they offered, but they've gradually gotten better with both the models and the quality of the photography. The last few have been quite attractive, and I would rate Silva as one of the most striking models on any acomo site. One thing about Extremehaircut, and I suppose it does fit their brand, is they are in kind of an acomo arms race, pushing the envelope with each new set, from head shaves, to head and eybrows, to full head, face and body, and finally everything right down to the eyelashes. I must admit, the model's gaze was penetrating after that, but it was a bit much. The emphasis there is not so much on aesthetics as shaving off as much as you possibly can.

That's another place where acomophiles tend to differ. Some like the shaving. I only see it as the process of revealing the baldness. It can be exciting, like a slow striptease, or entertaining if some imagination is used, but it can also just get tedious. I like bald women, not so much watching how they get that way.

I agree completely on Baldbeauties. Very much a porn site, only a few of the models are what I would call attractive, and they really haven't done much new stuff in years. A lot of the established sites used to be much better, but many of them have been coasting for a while.

As for Baldgirlz, I agree they don't have much in the way of free samples, and what they do have is pretty stale. They have done some fine work though. Most of Kat's effort seems to be at haircuttingfun.com, which seems to be focused mainly on VOD titles. She does seem to be putting a lot of effort into what she produces, and she's starting to market on sites like Amazon. The best thing at haircuttingfun is that her blog is kept reasonably up to date.

Kumi is great, but I never really spent much time on her site.

Futurecuts does have great clips. The site itself is mostly a collection of low-cost, low-quality videos, which is not a bad thing, but also doesn't mean much for visitors. I check in from time to time, just to see what's new. I had wondered why their site was down. If they actually did misrepresent themselves to a model, I'd love to know what reason other than fetish porn they gave for paying her to sit in front of a video camera and get her head shaved, then strike some poses afterward. Seems like a strange request in any other context.

As for YouTube, they have a lot of good stuff, but they also have a lot of crap to sift through. The Face World Faceoff people are the latest, and I really don't want to get started on what I think of them. And there is a veritable mountain of charity buzzcuts that people are calling shaved heads.

I have to agree. Right now, the best thing out there for just looking at high-quality pictures of bald women for free is the Loverbald blog.

Myself, I'm hoping to fill the long-neglected niche of people who want to explore the fetish in a bit more depth. So I've got the blog up, and there will eventually be a forum, but not until the blog gets going.

Yeah, I like eroticism and roleplaying but what's great about that site in particular is it captures beautiful bald women just being themselves.

Yeah, I wish it was more well organized, like being able to seperate updates by the day, week or month they were updated instead of just tediously surfing through a massive wall of links.

Shaved eyebrows is a strange but appealing look, I like it, it's definitely a step up in the kinky/weird meter but it's fascinating how different a person's face is without those little lines of hair. Women with alopecia lose the brows and they can still be very beautiful, like Gail Porter. Eyebrows do complement a face and make them more distinct from another though so I'm content with just the headshaving.

I think some acomo sites really cross the line with face shaving though. That's just ridiculous. :laughing:

I differ from you then, the headshaving process is very arousing for me, especially when it's a smooth shave and lathering is involved, very much part of the eroticism, it really is a striptease as I see it.

Watching the evolution from hair to no hair, seeing them feel their scalp for the first time. I love it.

Also not enough samples.

Yeah sampling is important and the samples there are random, not enough actual bald chicks and just few I really find that pretty.

Now she offers a LOT of samples. :thumb:

Yeah it's possible that this woman was just spreading crap because she was pissed off about something else.

I'm actually curious to know what your opinion on Face World Faceoff is. It doesn't really have anything to do with acomophilia it's more of an environmental protest thing. Some of the girls are beautiful but their pretentious neohippie rants I'm not as crazy about. And they do have an annoyingly elitist attitude towards people who don't share their viewpoint.

And yeah, buzzcuts look great but what's the real logic? If you're THAT close you might as well finish it off. I don't like stubble.

Shame his old youtube profile was deleted, he started a new one but not with all the videos from his old one. :(

There have been other acomo forums I think but they were pretty dead. You'll definitely need advertising skills and find places where you can promote it, get people interested, just as long as you don't break any anti-advertising policies.

As for this forum, I'm probably the only person who would be interested.

Yeah, the shaved eyebrows look can be quite striking, although I tend to like the eyebrows where they are most times. Part of going without eyebrows, I think, is adjusting the makeup to complement it. A woman with a particularly piercing gaze can look amazing without hair or eyebrows. The eyes are just unleashed.

I do find the shaving to be a turn-on. I've just found with a lot of the material out there, the clipping is shown in excruciating detail from multiple angles, the lathering and shaving are done a couple of times, and there just isn't any artistry to it. And after all that, hardly any time is spent on the result. I tend to jump forward to where the razor shaving begins.

The woman's reactions are definitely part of the appeal. That first feel when it's done, or even that little "WTF?" expression they all get when they first feel the razor up there. I know from experience, it doesn't feel like you think it's going to. I really enjoy that moment of surprise.

But ultimately, the shaving is more of a means to an end for me.

I'm thinking of doing a whole blog article on that. Part of it is exactly as you say - pretentious neo-hippy rants and the whole "fer us or agin us" attitude.

And they just bug me. The "SHAM-poo and CON-ditioner" line wasn't all that clever the first time I read it, much less the fiftieth. I find many activists have a blind spot for when they're just being lame and annoying and doing absolutely nothing to further their cause.

And they are just another extremist image for shaved heads. They don't even think it's attractive. They're sacrificing good looks for the environment, not advancing a broader idea of beauty.

I don't know if you saw this, but one of the Futurecuts preview clips on YouTube had a comment from one of these people to the effect of "Good for you, although I'm not sure I understand the motivation."

Gee, it's not a political statement. She's just doing it for fun, a little extra money, and because some people think it looks good. What a strange notion.:rolleyes: I couldn't tell if this person just didn't get it, was deliberately being bitchy, or just trying to hijack someone else's video to promote her agenda.

I also just don't understand some of the reasoning. Apparently, individual choice is to blame for our woes, so they are adopting a uniform look that does not use hair products (just shaving cream, razor blades and soap). What? The whole beauty industry is fueled on conformity. People fork out money for this stuff because they think they have to look a certain way. Unless you live in the world of THX 1138, shaving your head is an act of rebellion more than it is one of conformity. It wouldn't be an effective political statement if it wasn't rebellious. And I don't believe for one minute these Face World Faceoff people don't get a charge out of standing out in a crowd.

That's why I'm not in too much of a hurry to get a forum going. I want to build the blog audience a bit, and try to get a critical mass before I start. You will definitely get an invitation when that happens.

As for the other dead forums, it seems like neglect was the problem. Not enough moderation. They either got overrun with spam and trolls, or tightened up their membership requirements to the point where it just wasn't worth signing up. A few good moderators who are firm but flexible are what any forum needs. I'll keep you in mind for the job.:D

I must admit, it is pretty strange that I'd have to go to a music board to find a good discussion of bald women and acomophilia. I usually hang out on b-movie boards, where they know Persis, but not for the same reasons.

Agreed.

http://api.ning.com/files/0tHS-XyVNZ...737&height=552

This is a woman with alopecia, and her eyes are stunning.


Same here.

Some videos focus way too much on the cutting, which is boring. There is no actual purpose to cutting your hair if you're gonna shave it off anyway it's just playing around and teasing. I don't get erotic appeal from that, I get it from the buzzing, the lathering and the razor shaving. And you're right some don't show enough of the end result.

Yeah the reactions are special, the more confidence a woman shows in her new look afterwards the better.

True, but seeing the transformation has a special appeal to me.


Yeah I hate how they constantly use those puns. :laughing:

I'm sure some of them want to defy what the media considers attractive as well though. But yeah they have made it a political obligation rather than something to do for fun, comfort or aesthetic reasons. To be fair, that doesn't mean some of them don't do it for those reasons also.

That's actually not that ignorant by YouTube standards. A lot of headshaving videos on YT get comments like "ugly" and "WHY???????????????????????".

Opposing uniformity by promoting uniformity doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.

But from what I understand, these people seem to think diversity is the root of our problem (I don't agree with this obviously), that because we are so different we judge ourselves by comparing ourselves to others in how we look, especially in terms of hair.

I don't agree with this movement but I think I understand what it is they are trying to say. Still annoyingly self righteous though.

Yeah, there is nothing wrong with wanting attention from others. But there is something wrong with hypocrisy.

Yeah your blog is only a month old so it still needs time and hopefully the acomo crowd will flock in your direction if you keep the content coming. I'm optimistic that you will gain more viewers because your blog has a ridiculous amount of tags. :laughing:

Yeah, I made this thread because I constantly went on about bald women on topics where it isn't really relevant, I still do that actually.

Remember that the comment was from a woman with a shaved head. In that context, it was pretty ignorant. LOL, I hate the "why would you do that?" comments too and here's another one. "Aw, you were so beautiful before.":banghead:

I hate those so much.

It's only happened a couple of times but with having piercings, a couple of tattoo's and usually wearing a band T shirt as well as my usual non smiling self it's easy for people to jump to those conclusions . I was shaving my head before I started thinning anyhow as it was practical and I think it suits me.

I think that if I looked a lot older and was generally bald anyhow then it would be more acceptable but because I still only have a widows peak instead of being completely bald when it grows a little then it looks like I purposefully shave my head instead of doing it out of neccessity if that makes sense---probably doesn't!

Yeah the only time I think people get weirded out by guys with shaved heads is when it's like a whole group of them. Then the fear of them being a gang of violent skinheads has more merit.

Yeah, I know when I was in my early 20s, with a pretty visible shadow on top even after the closest shaves, I think I intimidated more people. And this was still years before shaved heads became the new combover, and everybody started getting shaved for charity, so it wasn't something you saw very often, even on a guy. I'm a big guy, and generally pretty quiet, so I can be intimidating at the best of times.

Now, more than a decade and a half later, my appearance has softened and my bald-by-choice head is becoming less of a choice every year. I'm one of three completely bald men on my block. Nobody really seems to notice anymore, except when convenient for identification purposes. "He's a big, bald guy."

In some ways, it's nice to be so normal, but I miss the days when my shaved head could be a conversation piece, and strange women would walk up and want to feel it. That doesn't happen anymore. I miss that.

I agree with you that trying to show the positives of the behavior that is considered unusual (a woman shaving her head, or a woman *not* shaving her body) is preferable to focusing on the problem caused by people perpetuating a norm, boo boo.

However, I view describing how and why norms are created as informing people rather than guilt-tripping them. It is talking about the reality of a situation. For example, every time Tyra Banks gives bald women wigs or make-up, she is perpetuating the idea that women need those to be beautiful, and that being beautiful is important. Without acknowledging the effects of her actions, we don't see the full picture of why most women want long hair.

With the leg hair issue, the fact is people made women feel their own body hair was superfluous or ugly, so they shaved it off to feel attractive, and now women perpetuate the norm by almost always shaving. Pointing out that this is how the norm was created and sustained may help people realize reasons they might wish to question the norm. Long head hair and shaved legs/underarms for women are so common that people may not even think of themselves as having a choice because they never questioned those societal habits, so challenging assumptions about what makes someone a "woman" is good, I feel. At least people are then thinking about this issue.

I knew you were joking! I just decided to answer seriously.

So, boo boo and perhaps baldy, here's a shaved-head question for you both: How do you think your fetishes would be affected if the norm for women was to be bald? Do you think your fetishes would have even developed? Do you think you might have ended up with a fetish for the few women with long, luxurious, silky head hair, since that would be unusual and would mean the woman gloried in the sensuality of her hair and was brave enough to defy society and think for herself? Or, do you feel there is something intrinsic about women's bald heads that appeals to you?

Wow. That's one I don't think I could answer. I know there a lot of things that are aesthetically appealing about women with bald heads. If most women were bald, I might just enjoy the norm and have no fetish in that regard. Mind you, acomophilia is certainly not my only kink, it's just by far the strongest.

I have considered that if the fashion caught on too much, it might lose some of its power to excite. I mean, getting something good in small doses is a treat, but that might change if it's every day. Then again, I see beautiful women with hair on a regular basis, and the frequency of viewing does not seem to make them any less so.

It's a question I don't think I have a definite answer for.

I take offense from Tyra Banks because she enforces the belief on alopecians that they need hair to be attractive. I do not take offense from women who choose to have long hair because they find that more aesthetically pleasing than being bald, that is their right to their opinion. The prominence of women with long hair does have an influence on how alopecians see themselves which is sad but that doesn't mean these women should be denied to have hair out of some percieved moral obligation.

The solution is to spread the idea that bald women can be attractive. Women like Sharon Blynn have been doing just that, she's not forcing other women to shave their heads she's just saying that being bald can be a sexy alternative.

Hairy legs are a little more out there but I don't see why a woman can't go about it in the same way, instead of being self righteous about it.

Yes that's how I feel, the fact that it's different, exotic and groundbreaking is part of the appeal but the primary reason is that I just find it aesthetically pleasing, sexually attractive and beautiful. If bald women were everywhere I think it would still be my preference.

But I will say that the rarity makes it more exciting on a sexual level. I still think hair looks good, I'm just bored with it.

That does seem to be a nice solution, boo boo, except I hope she doesn't just say that being bald is a sexy alternative but is also an alternative that may have nothing to do with a woman's sexuality. And I understand your point, which is a good one, about emphasizing the benefits of alternatives rather than forcefully challenging someone about her behavior.

The preference for baldness is interesting to me, because so many people really like the feel of someone's head hair...but it's all just a preference, of course, and there is nothing wrong with the fact that you groove on smooth!

By the way, I DID see that leg shaving comment in the rape thread. I've managed to refrain myself...for now. :D