ephebophilia

This might be a little off-topic and maybe slightly TMI, but oh well.

In the last few months or so I've lost almost any urge to look at pornography. It happened as I was watching one (as men are wont to do at times) and I saw a penetrative act that didn't even look remotely pleasing for the girl...and well, it was completely deflating.

It actually forced me to realize that sex should be more about love between two people than gratification of individual sexual urges.

So no, pornography doesn't even begin to satisfy me anymore...and I can imagine other men have had similar experiences.

I respect the **** out of that, Sam.

I agree completely.
That's another problem. When is a child a child. When is it mentally damaging for a child to have sex? Is it still criminal if the child agrees? Things like that.
It's good there's a minimum age, I think. But how wrong is paedophilia if you compare it to homosexuality. Or, how wrong is homosexuality when you compare it to paedophilia?

My opinion is very simple; As long as no one is harmed, it's allright.
But that's a very, very vague line.

There's a very good reason I prefer watching a single girl to people actually having sex. Even if they're both girls. It doesn't really feel natural to me to look at something like that. I am somewhat grossed out by it. I'm not sure why this doesn't happen to me when there's just one girl on the screen. I even prefer video's made by the girls themselves because in that case you're actually looking at something the girl meant you to see.

How weird is this? Not sure.

Yeah man, I know what you mean. I used to hear these conversations my "friends" were having about taking the brown express, and the guys calling it the best thing ever disgusted me. The majority of chicks I've talked to that have had it in the rear didn't like it at all. I just don't get the appeal behind it (oh wow, that is not meant to be a pun).

I think sixteen is an acceptable place to draw the line, because I don't believe a person is mentally developed enough to process the consequences of their actions.

My grad class was about 150 students. I can't count on all my fingers and toes the number of girls I know by name who dropped out of school due to pregnancy. The number of girls from my grad class who have had multiple children in the four years since then absolutely astounds me.

I don't believe that teenagers can adequately weigh the pros of fun against the cons of poor choices.

Yes, 16.
And what if the other person is 38 or something?
Still a bit weird, innit?

There's this girl I know, she's 20 now, I'm 27. We're attracted to eachother, she's epic but she's got a boyfriend, no biggie. Nothing is going to happen.
I got to know her years ago when she was... 13? 14? Not sure.
And we had this conversation a couple of weeks back. She was sexually active quite early. Mentally too, by the way.
Lost her virginity at 14, nothing bad happened, she was just a bit early and still feels fine about it. Eitherway, when I got to know here there definitely was a certain 'spark' between us. This has remained up till now. A couple of weeks back we had this conversation about what would have happened if at some point at her 14th she would have been single... And we weren't quite so sure. This could have meant that I would have had sex with a 14 year old girl, while I was 21. If you know the situation, if you know the girl, it isn't even that bad. But if you look at the ages, it sounds like an awful idea.
It didn't happen. And if it happens now, it's fine. But this some how proves that the age (difference) alone is a difficult thing, too. Because I can genuinely say that it wouldn't have done her any harm, had anything happened back then.

Come to think of it, she had a 27 year old boyfriend when she was 15 anyway. In her case, this somehow works. She's got a great boyfriend now, he's 26 if I'm not mistaken. So that's not all that weird. Brilliant guy.

Its strange, because tv and movies depict lots of young people frolicking around being provocative having sex all the time (american pie for example). Just the other day a night variety show (sabado jigante) had some young girls, probably 7 or 8, dressed like grown women, shaking their thang. In the past (roman, babylonian), it was actually normal for a grown man to have a young friend.
We live in times of constant contradiction, where we hate the pedophile but bait them with tv, movies and music videos depicting barely legal girls, or boys, but mostly girls, wearing practically nothing saying, "I'm not that innocent" and "student body has a bad reputation, what they need is an adult education."
Sounds like society needs to make a decision to whats considered acceptable and just stick with it.

Speaking of that, read up on pederasty in ancient Greece. It's so weird how that was socially accepted, but a homosexual relationship between two grown men was not.

Is anyone familiar with Pederasty?
The psychological make-up of what pedophilia Is and Isn't, can be quite daunting in both mental and moral aspects. This has never been more black & white than it is today, though what is defined as pedophilia can differ from person to person.