that's initially what I thought this thread about first, myself

i was ready to share my knowledge of hotrodding them

I don't think any one thing is guaranteed as effective for all, because the simple fact of the matter is that every woman you meet is a different human being from the last. I think the kinds of men who read those kinds of texts forget that fact.

I read The Game, it as recommended by a friend. Who was a female actually.
It disgusted me, insulting people to get sex? Too sleazy.

I would actually like to hear from women who this sort of thing actually works on, because I'm in disbelief that it does, and I certainly can't pick out a girl here who would allow themselves to be degraded.

I definitely agree. I don't think guys always need to be dominant for a relationship to work. I just think that in general there are much more occurrences where males take a dominant role as opposed to a woman being more dominant. That sure seems to be changing though.

Ever been with an alcoholic in denial?

That line never seems to work for me.

I wouldn't want to sleep with any woman whom the old cheesy pick-up lines work on. Jesus ****ing Christ what airheads such women must be.

If a man insulted me he'd get cheek back. I'd probably rip him a new one. Be friendly, don't waste your time being an arsehole.

This.

That being quoted, heres a few things I've noticed working in my short lifetime.

*If you're in a situation where there are mutual friends, e.g. you were introduced at a party, using the medium correctly helps. Usually a "Whats the story with your cute friend?" That usually gets back to them and assuming you're not a scum bag, a lot of the ground work is done for you.

*The hard to get thing is a little overblown, but I will say that coming off with a take-it-or-leave-it attitude is a strong start. No one of either gender wants to be hit on blatantly unless they have emotional damage, and you don't want to hit on those folks either.

*I have a wait-and-see approach. I've found that having patience goes a long way in landing your objectives correctly. I don't mind being friendly and let my charming self seep in. As you may have gathered from MB, I come off...direct at first, thats no different than in real life. I have opinions, I say them, sometimes I need to let me opinions take a backseat when trying to talk to women, and that isn't easy. Over time they seem to catch up.

*Don't be afraid to give them hell. No one likes being coddled. If you would rag on one of your friends for something, don't be shy, do it to her. Within reason of course, jabs are fine, but you need to consider how well you know a person.

Hope it helps.