Size Rise

Arya Stark · 04-07-2012, 09:57 PM

I guess, yeah, there's a difference between big and fat.
Also, it's how you dress yourself/how you view yourself.

If you're a size 20 US and you dress in skimpy clothing with your stomach hanging out, that ain't hot. If you know how to dress, and wear something nice for your body, I think it's totally hot.

Also, if you're confident and you want to wear whatever you want to wear, it doesn't matter about everyone else's opinion. Of course, this thread is about opinion, so I guess this aspect of the argument wouldn't be valid.

Regarding the more negative comments, I don't think it's right to insult anyone. If someone doesn't want to BE with you because of how you look, fine. But that's still no reason to call anyone a "disgusting fatty". That's just nasty and unnecessary.

Key · 04-07-2012, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

I guess, yeah, there's a difference between big and fat.
Also, it's how you dress yourself/how you view yourself.

If you're a size 20 US and you dress in skimpy clothing with your stomach hanging out, that ain't hot. If you know how to dress, and wear something nice for your body, I think it's totally hot.

Also, if you're confident and you want to wear whatever you want to wear, it doesn't matter about everyone else's opinion. Of course, this thread is about opinion, so I guess this aspect of the argument wouldn't be valid.

Regarding the more negative comments, I don't think it's right to insult anyone. If someone doesn't want to BE with you because of how you look, fine. But that's still no reason to call anyone a "disgusting fatty". That's just nasty and unnecessary.

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slatesphanboi · 04-08-2012, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

Shut up

Goodbye MusicBanter.

Unknown Soldier · 04-08-2012, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre

I googled it.

Products From New Zealand.com - Size/Conversion Chart - Unique and Special Gifts to spoil yourself or loved ones with, Maori Art, Jewelry, Exotic Foods, Fashion Clothes, and More

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Size by Body Measurement
Euro 	34	36	38	40	42	44	46	48	50	52
UK 	8	10	12	14	16	18	20	22	24	26
USA 	6	8	10	12	14	16	18	20	22	24
Japan 	 	8	9	11	13	15	17	17	19	 
NZ 	8	10	12	14	16	18	20	22	24	26

So to clarify, we're talking about UK Size 16+, NZ Size 16+, European size 42+, USA size 14+, and Japanese size 11+.

I always think women UK size 12-14 adequate not too fat not too skinny. UK size 16 is borderline but I have known some very nice women that were around size 16, size 8 no way far too skinny.

anticipation · 04-08-2012, 09:48 PM

I equate obesity to stupidity, so no. Nothing is more unattractive than an unhealthy person, because it betrays a sense of apathy and unwillingness to maintain themselves. Unless you have a serious medical condition, in which case I understand.

Sparky · 04-08-2012, 09:50 PM

You equate laziness to stupidity as well then?

Arya Stark · 04-08-2012, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

I equate obesity to stupidity, so no. Nothing is more unattractive than an unhealthy person, because it betrays a sense of apathy and unwillingness to maintain themselves. Unless you have a serious medical condition, in which case I understand.

Yeah but that's not really the question. It's not solely obesity.
Curvy, big, etc. also count.
Fine, obese, like unable to sit in a booth at a restaurant? Unable to ride rides at a theme park? Fine. What about people who aren't obese? What if some people like curves?

I mean, there are cultures that definitely appreciate curves way more than stick thinness. So what about people who are just curvier or big?

And if you see someone "obese" on the street, you can't just tell they have a serious condition. So I don't really know if that even counts. Does that mean if you met someone with a serious condition, that you would be with them because they're not fat due to laziness?

anticipation · 04-08-2012, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

You equate laziness to stupidity as well then?

not really, how you spend your time doesn't really define you as a human being so much as your social relationships and the way you treat your body. i don't place value on actions, more so on the way those actions affect your health and your happiness. i'm lazy as shit dude i smoke weed hahah.

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Originally Posted by AwwSugar

Yeah but that's not really the question. It's not solely obesity.
Curvy, big, etc. also count.
Fine, obese, like unable to sit in a booth at a restaurant? Unable to ride rides at a theme park? Fine. What about people who aren't obese? What if some people like curves?

I mean, there are cultures that definitely appreciate curves way more than stick thinness. So what about people who are just curvier or big?

And if you see someone "obese" on the street, you can't just tell they have a serious condition. So I don't really know if that even counts. Does that mean if you met someone with a serious condition, that you would be with them because they're not fat due to laziness?

my personal preferences aren't really what i was intimating. i truly believe that as a human being you should want to be as healthy as possible, and this notion is completely separate from attraction. in terms of what i go for in bitches i'd say that curves are good but not if the girl is so overweight that i find them repulsive. the same is true for heroin chic girls, because it all stems from having an unhealthy lifestyle. in short; i am more concerned with personality and the actual attraction than the constituents that go into making me attracted to them.

Sparky · 04-08-2012, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by anticipation

not really, how you spend your time doesn't really define you as a human being so much as your social relationships and the way you treat your body. i don't place value on actions, more so on the way those actions affect your health and your happiness. i'm lazy as shit dude i smoke weed hahah.

Right on,

Your notion that obese people are less smart just makes me slightly uncomfortable. From an emotional standpoint I actually agree with you, I look at a lot of obese people with contempt. They have been successfully taken advantage of by food corporations, convinced sunny d is an adequate substitute for orange juice or whatever.

But when i think about it more objectively, it seems a lot of it really is genetics. I don't eat healthier or value my body more so than many overweight people, I was just fortunate to inherit a fast metabolism.

midnight rain · 04-08-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparky

Right on,

Your notion that obese people are less smart just makes me slightly uncomfortable. From an emotional standpoint I actually agree with you, I look at a lot of obese people with contempt. They have been successfully taken advantage of by food corporations, convinced sunny d is an adequate substitute for orange juice or whatever.

But when i think about it more objectively, it seems a lot of it really is genetics. I don't eat healthier or value my body more so than many overweight people, I was just fortunate to inherit a fast metabolism.

Brah I used to chalk it up to this too. And then I started counting calories and realized I didn't eat nearly as much as I thought I did. Lots of obese people just eat and eat, or eat very unhealthy.

But some of it's genetics. Bone structure for example, is entirely genetics and plays a factor in how much 'meat' you carry on your bones. And yes metabolisms do vary.

Also, it makes sense that obesity is generally looked at as unattractive. We associate attractiveness with how healthy an individual is from a survival standpoint. Obese people don't typically live as long, pretty basic stuff.

I would be interested to see anticipation's correlation with intelligence and weight though.

04-08-2012, 09:48 PM	#45 (permalink)
anticipation Music Addict Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 3,565	I equate obesity to stupidity, so no. Nothing is more unattractive than an unhealthy person, because it betrays a sense of apathy and unwillingness to maintain themselves. Unless you have a serious medical condition, in which case I understand.

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Sparky not really Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 5,223	You equate laziness to stupidity as well then?