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EDGE 06-08-2005 07:22 PM

Vinyl appreciation post.
 
Gotta love it.
I ended up spending $129.88 on a boat-load of records in the past 45 minutes.
Do any of you care?




Not at all.

riseagainstrocks 06-08-2005 07:29 PM

Vinyl is a waste of money.

poor quality
poor longevity
poor everything

there is nothing "hip" about vinyl. wait for a cd. or something.

EDGE 06-08-2005 07:35 PM

:eek:

PhishFood 06-08-2005 07:52 PM

Boo out of here! Vinyl is the greatest! I wish I had $129.88 to spend on vinyl.

hiu 06-09-2005 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
Vinyl is a waste of money.

poor quality
poor longevity
poor everything

there is nothing "hip" about vinyl. wait for a cd. or something.

Vinyl sounds better, that is all.

dog 06-09-2005 06:59 AM

it does?

PhishFood 06-09-2005 07:58 AM

Have you heard it? Vinyl is pure music, You might get pops and clicks, but just put a penny on the stylus.

All_Nite_Dinah 06-09-2005 09:56 AM

I do agree that records have become very trendy(hence this thread),I think too many people listen to it because its hip. Burt who am I to tell you what musical format is or isnt "cool"? Cds certainly have certain advantages, but I do love my records. Plus theres lots of stuff that won't be put onto cd so you have no option but to buy it on record. Each has its own distinct advantages and disadvanteges for instance

Records
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Many recordings were meant to be played on records because records will autimaticly play diffrently than a cd, so even whe the original recording is re-mastered it wont sound as good as it did on record.

LOTS of stuff on records is unheard but wonderful and will most likely never be remade anywhere. You candiscover lots of cool music for relativly cheap by searching second hand shops.

Record players are fairly simple in contrast to the modern stereo which make them an easier repair for most people, and are also relativly affordable when bought second hand.

Records allow for Much more creative packaging and allow a musiciaan to express the tone of there music through there artwork and packaging as well as the music.

Records sound just as good as cd's when first played. IMO Records sound much much crisper and warmer when played on the right ewquipment in contrast to cdds which sound more sharp and distiinct.

Records and cds cost about the same to make yet cds are often sold for much more than records.

Records collectiong is a fun hobby, pressing info and the such are fun to check and see when what was done.

CDs begin to deteriorate and poorly made discs will literally begin to fall apart.

CD's
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Portable, easy to bring with you and play anywhere from your car to your walkman. Records arre obviously a less convnenit medium for listening to music. You even have to get up and flip the record half way through!

Longevity, A cd can hold up to 80 minuites of music without compromising sound quality, while a record even with the most modern microgrooves starts to lose qualty when around 30 minuites are put on each side. Max capacity being around 40 min. per side oon a 12 in. record.

Records are more seseptable to getting scratched and dusty because of there size.

Audio quality on a record will go down because of wear from the needle by the 8th time you play the record. That means even the records you listen to least will still lose quality.

Although a record player is very simple in operation they have many more parts that can be broken and need replacement i.e. belts, motors, stylus, tone arms, speed varaibles, etc

Records, particularly shellac 78s, are more likely to break due to there size and material than cds.

All_Nite_Dinah 06-09-2005 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhishFood
Have you heard it? Vinyl is pure music, You might get pops and clicks, but just put a penny on the stylus.


A penny on the stylus will help eliminate certain scratches pops and clicks, abut at the same time will put additional weight on the records and cause more wear over time. A easy solution I haver found to this is to take a pop bottle top and tape it upside down so it acts a s a dish in which you can add or remove weight. This is all saying that you dont have a bui;t in counterweight though.

All_Nite_Dinah 06-09-2005 10:04 AM

Also what you listen to can determine what format is best. For instance a full length album with deep loud bass hits is going to play much better on cd because records loose quality with more bass and grooves need to be cut wider there for making the whole album more difficult to fit onto one recording when there is lots of loud bass. So you have to compromis for a shorter album, or a album with compromised fidelity. Unless you package the album as a double LP.

PhishFood 06-09-2005 10:16 AM

Wow, Your Vinyl knowledge overfloweth. massivly good comparison.

Fenixpunk 06-09-2005 10:49 AM

ive got crates upon crates of vinyl, wouldnt give them up for anything. Like mentioned above, there is alot of music out there on vinyl that cant be found on cd and vice versa. I personally love the sound of vinyl, and searching through old records. Theyre just so much more awesome and make good conversation pieces. When I buy new vinyl, I burn them onto a cd so i can listen in my car and at work, and i do buy cds that werent ever put on vinyl. But thers 12"s, 10"s, 7"s, 33rpm, 45rpm, 78rpm, picture disks, double lps, 1 sided lps, etc... theres just such a wide variety of differant styles that make record collections superior over any other formats.

All_Nite_Dinah 06-09-2005 10:55 AM

Thats my big problem is that I have to figure out how to get my records onto cdr. I've been trying all kinds of different stuff out, but I cant get iot. Ill have one of my computer nerd friends come over and figure it out for me. Because Im dying to get my Doom and FAR stuff on cd and I dont feel like buying the acctual cds. Eventually Id like to back up all my stuff on cdr.

But anyway i totally agree. You cant find all the collectable stuff ov vinyl on cd anywhere. A "special limited edition" cd has a fancy paper cover where a ltd. record is probobly hand numbered has a special cover and comes in a special format. Everything about them just makes you feel special. And fenix dont forget the 6" the 8" and the flexis!

Fenixpunk 06-09-2005 10:59 AM

i dont own any 6" or 8" (although my bassist i think might have a few) but yeah, cant believe i forgot about flexis. have you seen the records "Thick Records" make? I have a Blue Meanies picture disk on Thick, and the record is so...uh....thick. Reminds me of the old 78"s from way back in the day.

PhishFood 06-09-2005 09:05 PM

So much vareity... God I don't have enough Vinyl, there isn't even a record store in this city anymore, it makes me cry.

riseagainstrocks 06-10-2005 09:39 AM

I own several Vinyl's my favorite being Agent Orange's "Living In Darkness"

but they still cannot compare.

i just feel spending 120+ dollars on it is quite the waste of money

PhishFood 06-10-2005 10:32 AM

Well I've probly spent more than that, just not all at once.

EDGE 06-10-2005 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riseagainstrocks
I own several Vinyl's my favorite being Agent Orange's "Living In Darkness"

but they still cannot compare.

i just feel spending 120+ dollars on it is quite the waste of money

Not a waste of money if you enjoy the **** enough.

right-track 06-10-2005 03:23 PM

The whole Northern Soul scene in England (fast, black Amercan soul music) relies heavily on original 60's vinyl. The rarer the better!
D.J.s at allnighter venues are expected to play nothing but vinyl.
These rare soul records exchange hands today, for 10's, 100's and even 1000's of pounds.

Do I Love You - Frank Wilson sold for a cool 15,000 quid ( only 3 known copies in the world) in recent years!
I know one D.J. who's been collecting since the 70's, he had his spins valued at just over £100,000. Definately NOT a waste of money.
Vinyl has something...dunno...guess it just feels better to own than a cd.

PhishFood 06-10-2005 09:00 PM

It does, My vinyl records are like my children

All_Nite_Dinah 06-11-2005 10:00 AM

You are aware that its just s different form of music. Its not like records are madde of gold. Once again dont get me wrong I loooove my records, but its not like "my vinyls are my babies". I still dont unerstand why everyone is opposed to just saying records either. But anyway Im done bitching now.

riseagainstrocks do you know if thats an original pressing or is it just a repress? In anycxase if you wever want to part with it PM me.


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