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RL Clown 10-27-2014 09:20 AM

University is messed up (in my opinion)
 
I think that education is extremely important, but I think that the University system is corrupt.

I studied my brains off for a math test. I expected a very high grade, but I ended up with a marginal pass. Back in high school, if I studied really hard for a test, I would end up with a very high grade.

I have another complaint... My friend would like to study business, but the University is forcing him to perform extremely well in mathematics. My friend dislikes math. Mathematics is not relevant to business. Let's be honest. Business students don't use a lot of math. If the University told him that he had to perform extremely well in a business course, now THAT would make a lot more sense...

Freedom of speech... University is turning students into robots (caffeine-addicts). Society has been fooled into believing that University is the only direction towards success in life.

But Bill Gates dropped out of University and he is very successful. I can't believe that University is actually getting my tuition fees. I'm pissed off. I sound stoned right now. But according to my experience, University really does suck.

If you think that exams can measure a student's capabilities, I invite you to read this:

are examinations a fair way of testing our knowledge? | Debatewise Where great minds differ

grindy 10-27-2014 09:57 AM

I wanted to answer, but then I read your other posts and realised you're a joker.

Good one.:)

Thelonious Monkey 10-27-2014 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RL Clown (Post 1501789)
I think that education is extremely important, but I think that the University system is corrupt.

I studied my brains off for a math test. I expected a very high grade, but I ended up with a marginal pass. Back in high school, if I studied really hard for a test, I would end up with a very high grade.

I have another complaint... My friend would like to study business, but the University is forcing him to perform extremely well in mathematics. My friend dislikes math. Mathematics is not relevant to business. Let's be honest. Business students don't use a lot of math. If the University told him that he had to perform extremely well in a business course, now THAT would make a lot more sense...


Freedom of speech... University is turning students into robots (caffeine-addicts). Society has been fooled into believing that University is the only direction towards success in life.

But Bill Gates dropped out of University and he is very successful. I can't believe that University is actually getting my tuition fees. I'm pissed off. I sound stoned right now. But according to my experience, University really does suck.

If you think that exams can measure a student's capabilities, I invite you to read this:

are examinations a fair way of testing our knowledge? | Debatewise Where great minds differ

So wait, you didn't pass at uni, so therefore university is corrupt? Also, whether or not Maths is important for business courses, who gives a ****. That's what you got to do, so do it. No point complaining. Let me redirect you to The Bitch Box

Pet_Sounds 10-27-2014 11:40 AM

I think this is the first time I've heard anyone say that math isn't important to business. :rofl:

RL Clown 10-27-2014 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinJJustin (Post 1501808)
So wait, you didn't pass at uni,

No offense dog, but I question your reading comprehension... Do you understand what a marginal pass is?

Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinJJustin (Post 1501808)
Also, whether or not Maths is important for business courses, who gives a ****.

I give a crap... The school is getting my tuition fees... This is why I give a crap.

Frownland 10-27-2014 01:10 PM

Wow, a higher level education than high school is more difficult than high school. That's crazy, man, there's definitely something going on.

Ninetales 10-27-2014 01:14 PM

yo math is absolutely important in business dood

Thelonious Monkey 10-27-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RL Clown (Post 1501842)
No offense dog, but I question your reading comprehension... Do you understand what a marginal pass is?



I give a crap... The school is getting my tuition fees... This is why I give a crap.

Okay, fair enough. My bad. But I still don't understand why uni is corrupt. Your just telling us that you didn't get what you wanted and therefore uni sucks. Also, do you think the uni's actually give a **** what you think. You can argue all you want about how stupid it is, but at the end of the day, if that's what you need to do to progress, then get it done.

Sparky 10-27-2014 01:18 PM

To offer a serious response

I do believe because of the high saturation that schools are more likely to expect "over achievement" though I can do nothing but speculate that this wasn't always the case.

Perhaps it's simply a lot more students who wouldn't otherwise be attending university are now being "forced" to.

I do think some form of education reform is overdue, but don't dare offer any insight as to what this would entail. I think classes should offer multiple forms of grading.Students who are adept at retaining vast amounts of information should score high marks on tests alone. Students who struggle in this capacity should be allowed alternative, but equally grueling, measures in which to score high marks.

For a math course this could be taking 20 quizzes over the course of the semester as oppose to one final, or something along those lines.

Personally, I find the variability in professor's kind off frustrating. You may have an extremely difficult course that is relatively manageable because of an understanding and competent professor. You may, on the other hand, have a relatively familiar course that is needlessly complicated because of a incompetent, non understanding professor.

I recommend online courses. You don't have to attend lectures, you get to interact with students without the air of superficiality(I'm going to sit at this table because of hawt chix) and get to dictate your own pace to a larger extant. I think online courses is where this reform may come into place.

simplephysics 10-27-2014 01:40 PM

Obviously you need to comprehend basic math functions to survive in the business world, but some of the math courses that universities require students to take in order to graduate are a bit ridiculous. I'm technically a liberal arts student, and my degree program and future career will have little to do with the course I'm required to take (finite mathematics). I really don't understand the logic behind it, or why other, more sensible, math courses can't be taken instead. I would think a class like statistics would be much more beneficial to a liberal arts major planning to work in the public sector than finite or calculus.


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