You'd probably love it just like everyone else (in this scenario) due to it being it so relevant to your life.

Takes a couple listens anyway, and on good headphones ideally.

Yeah abrasive static-y noises sound much better the fourth time compared to the first time, what was I thinking

Yup, you start to understand that there's actually a lot to it.

In your opinion

It's quite an array of noises and a lot more dynamic than what you describe. Whether you like it or not doesn't matter but it is quite true that there are a ****load of textures and change ups throughout. I used to feel the same as you, then I listened to it more and noticed its depth.

One day you'll be reppin this album as much as me, you're just going through the token stage of denial :D.

I've made music with lots of textures and change ups, why am I not praised as a genius??

Probably because you didn't start the velvet underground and release a stream of very successful solo albums.

If it was Reed's first album, he would be aligned to the underground but I feel like with the industrial movement it would have found a cult following still.

That's because you enjoy sports. If you didn't, you'd really notice how ubiquitous they are.

Ooh yeah, I must put that on my to-listen list!
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If you're saying you hate sports as much as I hate MMM...well then I'm kind of disturbed and think you have some deep psychological issues from childhood contributing to that

Is that where your hatred for MMM stems from? I'm sorry man, you've clearly had a rough time so I'll stop defending it.

The babysitter locked me in the closet with MMM on loop for hours and hours man what can i say

Ah Hell, come at me Frowny! At least I can say I endured it once!

Go listen to it on your own accord then.

Imagine a world where people would suggest that you had psychological issues from childhood simply because you found the omnipresence of Metal Machine Music annoying.

in that world I would confidently respond with "yes, there is definitely some sort of psychological barrier separating me from enjoyment of Metal Machine Music"

How about in this world? It's a much more interesting way to spend an hour than watching any sport is.

Massive circle jerk amongst the uber nerdy artsy fartsy MB dweebs who don't like sports. Cool.

You won't understand, but this make cry happy tears.

In your opinion. Luckily I'm not one of the Bud Light-chugging rednecks that's going to tell you that you're lesser for not enjoying sports. I can at least see where you're coming from

:D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIKYnQ70HFA

Ftr I think that playing sports is a lot of fun, I just don't like watching other people have that fun because I'm selfish.

So why do you like watching other people play music?

Two people isn't a "massive circle jerk". This is:

https://cbsboston.files.wordpress.co...riots-fans.jpg

Didn't you suggest I had deep psychological issues for not liking sorts?

No, you were saying your dislike of sports was similar to my dislike of MMM...which is an extreme hatred to the point where I'd feel physically ill if I heard it. If that's the case for you with sports then I certainly would hypothesize that there's some psychological factors at work there

I have no idea if your dislike is similar to my dislike. I was just saying imagine if something you found annoying/boring was as ubiquitous as sports are.

Well MMM is more than just annoying/boring to me so that's why I said the particular comparison was falling apart, but still I definitely see your point. I guess I'm lucky for inherently loving to play and watch sports since I was a kid :P

Because sports and music are two very different things and I would take playing music any time over playing sports. Plus with sports you do have variety between games, but you know what's going to happen in the end. There might be some obstacles along the way or plays that make each game unique, but with music there are even more varieties. You could say that you know what you're getting with each genre like with what I described as knowing the end result when watching a game, but since even intragenre artists can differ so greatly I think it wouldn't be fit.

But it the end it comes down to personal taste. Music is my life. Sports are not. If sports were my life or if I liked them enough to call them a hobby (they're not for me, they're just a way to entertain myself and some friends) maybe I would like to watch it. You clearly like sports more than I do and I don't give a **** about that because sometimes people have different preferences. Kinda nuts really.

No, I need someone to pay for the psychiatrists' bill in later life...

I have nothing against playing sports, it's watching them that I find unbearably boring.

John Cage just composed a football game. The ball is placed at the 50 yard line. The opposing teams stand at their respective 25 yard lines. Unmoving.

They do this for 3.76 hours.

Frownland weeps over the brilliance of it all.

:p:

:laughing: that kind of sounds like one of Cage's Happenings.

Another cool SB video.



Ages 10 to 70 reacting to the initial play and then the replays. If you've never been part of something like this - it's orgasmic.

So it's like a circle jerk?

Circle jerk: A few members of a forum who don't dig sports trying to diss on anyone who does by pumping up each others' non-loving sports' opinions.

That video is pure f*cking joy and elation being shared by a bunch of sports loving folks.

I'm truly sorry you cant' relate.

You said it was an "orgasmic" thing that they were all participating in at once. That's pretty much the definition of a circle jerk.

I like positive circlejerks more than negative circlejerks

Ok. Yup. Same thing.

This discussion :D

Ya, pretty much. This is boring.

I loved this discussion. Nobody got angry at each other, both sides had fair points, and everybody walks away feeling a little more enlightened about the others' viewpoint. Textbook forum discussion right there