He still pushed us in the right direction by tacking a big T Truth onto the nature of existence.

I understand why it seems like that to you but there’s nothing about what I know that hinges on the supernatural.

Well played, sir.

Don't praise him for something he had no control over.

Different parameters, dogma, planetary orbit analogy, blah blah blah

Can we go back to blaming our ****ty lives on capitalism

**** capitalism!

It's 'Christian' because rather than addressing the scrutiny you dance around it by condescending with a tone that you have some kind of higher knowledge that I don't, but if you did you could provide it.

In reality it's just that Christians feel like god exists despite any information contradicting it just as you feel free will is impossible despite the information I'm giving that contradicts it.

There is no guiding if you can't defend your stance from scrutiny.

I gave an example of how choice exists with in the cause and effect relationship of the universe. Now it's on you to actually say something.

Choice doesn’t exist because cause and effect does.

Except I gave an example of choice being cause and effect.

You’re a Mormon.

Consciousness doesn't exist.

*runs away*

It’s true that it’s only physical material.

Conciousness is the byproduct.

Flying doesn't exist. Only planes and wings.

I’m not willing to entertain discussion with people who don’t understand cause and effect.

It’s true than theories like panpsychism or consciousness not even existing are far fetched. It’s a matter of grasping at straws to help contemplate a very bewildering question but there’s a prerequisite of things you have to understand before you’re ready to have those discussions. The indisputable impossibility of free will must be understood and accepted before you can move on.

It’s true that me entertaining the arguments of people who can’t grasp this caused a circular and stupid unproductive conversation.

I’ll discuss the nature of consciousness and self with Batlord but I’m not having these discussions with people who aren’t ready anymore.

Was this on another forum or...?

Don't break an arm jacking yourself off, Mr. Peterson.

Does this mean we're not going to solve the meaning of life in the "Your Day" thread on Musicbanter?

Musicbanter doesn't exist.

Chance indicates an element of randomness which is more of a point against choice because if a random element outside of our chemistry is the deciding factor, then we don't have control of it.

I think I was getting somewhere when I asked if pool balls had brains. I mean, has anybody even thought of that before?

I don't see the two as being at at odds (even though calling a predictable universe predetermined is a gross misrepresentation). But again, both sides are clearly working with different parameters of what choice is and both sides are unwilling to recognize that and it's all dogma and blah blah blah

So basically you were cornered with information that you couldn't retort so you're doing all that you can to avoid admitting that you don't know.

Again, you argue like a Christian defending theism. Using the same exact 'logic'.

hard determinism =/= a predetermined universe

anyway the only thing worth worshipping is the utter chaos and absurdity of it all

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Edit: I should have done Lil Pump actually.

^You're not crazy enough to handle it.

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It's hard to argue against vague, meaningless bull****.

No matter how barebones and simply I broke it down I got the same response and accusations. *Flashback to special education teaching*

Was that in Japan or among the [REMOVED]s?

It's almost like complicating the issue is a defense mechanism.

Going way back what you said about ignoring it in yourself but recognizing it in others is a really useful way to build compassion.

Compassion doesn't exist.

OH is right. The inability to support your stance is a virtue.

And muddying the issue with nonsense is downright saintly.

Oh and no ****ing **** because free will is an irrational concept. Either the world is random or it's deterministic.

The bad people aren't going to hurt you with their confusing terminology sweetie.

I wasn't the one who posted an article about the human brain being even more complex than we thought as evidence of free will. Oh wow you can cancel your decisions before you even realize it that means we can break the laws of physics!

That would be pretty silly!