Well let's see... It's something I don't get to do often that I would like to do and have the opportunity to do.. And you're saying not to do it. How is that not a sacrifice?

There's lots of things that are 'inconveniences', but can simply be put off that I wouldn't consider a sacrifice by any means, and seeing family definitely falls into that category.

Ok, word police. Good chat. Changes absolutely nothing.

I need to go to work.

Don’t breathe. There’s covid there.

Well, I know that made my day.

Have good work day.

Such self righteousness in here lol

Y'all are acting like jwb is out there in covid central maskless and making out with the general public.

@Plank remember when OH roasted you for seeing your lady friend in March and suggested you're hands are bloodied by the inevitable death sentences you had signed?

@OH remember how you hate your family and wouldn't be visiting them anyway?

@Frown actually nah you're not in this category

Y'all don't have social pods? You're truly unable to assess your own risk level? Learn how to adapt, boomers.

I don't understand this. I live in constant fear of accidentally bringing it home to Karen, who would almost certainly die if she got it. Masks protect you and others, people in the older age bracket get it easier and find it harder to fight it, so why is there nothing rational about this argument? It makes perfect sense.

For most people who are lower risk it's too exaggerated to be fair. If I thought there was a realistic chance I'd kill my family by going back for Christmas I'd never have done it. I don't know the details of Karen's situation of course, but her health seems to be very fragile, and it's logical that you're more cautious.

@jwb's later comments, that's fair. What I'm saying about my own case is also basically a risk/cost analysis.

I'm not anti-mask, I tend to err on the side of overly-cautious. But essentially it's correlation =/= causation.

I have family members I am not visiting because of the risk. I have family members I am visiting because of the lack of risk. It's not even about it being too exaggerated or anything regarding fairness, it's just a case by case basis that requires critical thinking.

"If you don't wear a mask you have blood on your hands" is the same as saying "if you use the wrong pronoun for someone you are transphobic."

There is no such thing as "lower risk"
when it comes to getting the virus folks.