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Frownland 08-14-2017 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1864543)
Controversial??? Says who? 1 in every 3 men on the planet is circumsized and mild corporal punishment is still a very prevalent form of discipline if all else fails.

Maybe you should get down off of your high horse.

Considering the amount of backlash you've received for those opinions that you failed to justify with anything beyond a bandwagon argument, you really wouldn't consider those things controversial?

Talk about high horses.

Chula Vista 08-14-2017 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1864545)
Considering the amount of backlash you've received for those opinions that you failed to justify with anything beyond a bandwagon argument, you really wouldn't consider those things controversial?

Maybe it's more about different generations?

And being against circumcision or spanking is just as much a bandwagon thing. You younger guys just have a bigger bandwagon around here.

Frownland 08-14-2017 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1864548)
Maybe it's more about different generations?

I think its more your reasoning for your opinions than your opinions themselves, since its pretty clear that you're working backwards from your conclusion to reach your backing points instead of the other way around, which would be more logical. It's human nature though and it's near impossible to shake--still worth being conscious of and trying to avoid it though.

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And being against circumcision or spanking is just as much a bandwagon thing. You younger guys just have a bigger bandwagon around here.
The difference is that we don't use the popularity of our opinions to justify them.

The Batlord 08-14-2017 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1864543)
Controversial??? Says who? 1 in every 3 men on the planet is circumsized and mild corporal punishment is still a very prevalent form of discipline if all else fails.

Maybe you should get down off of your high horse.

https://i.giphy.com/media/f3iFlsZcrXKE0/giphy.webp

Chula Vista 08-14-2017 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1864549)
It's human nature though and it's near impossible to shake--still worth being conscious of it and trying though.

These two issues have come up in the past over on The Gear Page many times through the years. The majority of that place is a virtual nursing home. The opinions are just as lopsided over there but 180 degrees apart.



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The difference is that we don't use the popularity of our opinions to justify them.
Way to paint with a broad brush. I provide plenty of substance. It just gets tiring being reffered as a "bad parent" a "lazy parent" a "barbaric parent" a "cruel parent", etc. for my views.

Frownland 08-14-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1864552)
I provide plenty of substance.

:laughing: I will agree that you probably actually believe this.

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It just gets tiring being reffered as a "bad parent" a "lazy parent" a "barbaric parent" a "cruel parent", etc. for my views.
Give me one instance where someone referred to you specifically as this and I will give you 100 dollars.

When you're done with that snipe hunt, I wonder how you feel about this statement: well meaning parents can use bad parenting techniques.

bulbasaur 08-14-2017 02:43 PM

chula's a bad barbaric parent

Chula Vista 08-14-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1864554)
Give me one instance where someone referred to you specifically as this and I will give you 100 dollars.

If you make a post proclaiming how awesome Beefheart is and how much an influence he's been on you, and then in the very next post I say that people who like Beefheart are stupid and have zero musical taste - I've just insulted you.

Well meaning parents can use bad parenting techniques.

Well, who says they are bad? And remember, my two kids were raised before there was a widespread internet. There wasn't 10 million opposing opinions for every 10 million opinions back then.

Chula Vista 08-14-2017 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bulbasaur (Post 1864557)
chula's a bad barbaric parent

I'll send you your $50 after Frowny pays up. :laughing:

The Batlord 08-14-2017 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista (Post 1864563)
Well meaning parents can use bad parenting techniques.

Well, who says they are bad? And remember, my two kids were raised before there was a widespread internet. There wasn't 10 million opposing opinions for every 10 million opinions back then.

One day I hope your kids forgive you.


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