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Lucem Ferre 08-03-2017 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam (Post 1861795)
I hate to be obvious; but that's the internet in a nutshell. Want a real discussion, talk to real people face to face. I'm not saying that's how it should be, just that it is.

No. People in person are just as full of **** as they are on the net. People are just ruder on the net knowing they won't have to fear a punch in the face.

Then again, being rude in person doesn't really result in fists in faces as much as you'd assume.

camron 08-03-2017 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1859925)
I mean the shaming men for being virgins thing is linked to rape culture

where women are objects that men are supposed to get, and if you can't win the prize you don't have "game" so you're a loser

this is so heavily ingrained into the way we associate there's no reversing, but we should at least recognize it

Well what about sexual selection?

Roughly twice as many of your ancestors are females than are males. Why? Because on average women tend to have at least one child, where as with men there is more of a disparity in reproductive success.

This is basically sexual selection at work. So the men who fail to get women are judged not based on some arbitrary "rape culture." It's a much deeper insecurity that men endure in the face of being selected against by mother nature herself. Which is why it's "mother nature" and not "father nature."

Women (or more specifically mothers) are the filter through which the genes for the next generation are selected.

Blue Hawk 08-03-2017 11:52 AM

Banned because of gayness.

The Batlord 08-03-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1861998)
I may be reading this incorrectly but unless you have some mother Mary's in your ancestry it takes two to tango

Regardless it's a pitfall to start invoking evolutionary biology to explain/justify the evolution of social constructs

I'm assuming he's counting aunts and uncles and cousins.

Lucem Ferre 08-03-2017 12:36 PM

I don't get why the convo got deleted, did it break a rule?

The Batlord 08-03-2017 12:57 PM

But if the population is nearly 50/50 male/female then I still don't get it.

OccultHawk 08-08-2017 04:52 AM

https://gizmodo.com/exclusive-heres-...eed-1797564320

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the personal opinion of a male Google employee and is titled “Google’s Ideological Echo Chamber,” the author argues that women are underrepresented in tech not because they face bias and discrimination in the workplace, but because of inherent psychological differences between men and women. “We need to stop assuming that gender gaps imply sexism,” he writes

Frownland 08-08-2017 06:49 AM

I'm not sexist, REALITY IS.

Lucem Ferre 08-10-2017 12:36 AM

I wonder if gender favored personality traits have more to do with conditioning people into thinking they have to behave a certain way because of their gender and perhaps that can add to why people feel like they were born in the wrong gender because they were conditioned to believe that their personality is feminine or masculine even though they physically are not.

Paedantic Basterd 08-10-2017 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1863400)
I wonder if gender favored personality traits have more to do with conditioning people into thinking they have to behave a certain way because of their gender and perhaps that can add to why people feel like they were born in the wrong gender because they were conditioned to believe that their personality is feminine or masculine even though they physically are not.

It probably contributes. A lot of trans people hate their bodies too, though, so it's for sure not the whole story.


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