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Goofle 08-11-2017 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1863733)
Equating corporal punishment with male circumcision is way out of control and dramatic.

Hard to say which is worse but I'd say hitting your children. At least male circumcision has cultural/religious reasoning behind it (obviously I understand that's not the most logical thought process) whereas hitting your kids is just being a bad human because you're not a particularly good parent.

bulbasaur 08-11-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 1863699)
It's not hard. Again, you'r not giving a **** about MY perspective. I want to be called the almighty lord lucem god and creator. Are you going to do that? Or is there some kind of magical difference that NONE of you can point out?

And I'd much rather NOT push them away or avoid them or treat them like they should be quarantined. That's much ****tier. Like, if a dude walks up to you and says "I identify as a female" and you get up and just walk away is that not just pure disrespect?

What you're doing is FORCING a perspective I don't have onto me. If Bill wants to be called Sally I'll call him Sally all he wants but why should I have to identify him as a female if I don't see him that way? Because some magical rule decides that gender identity issues are more important than any other identity issues?

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djchameleon 08-11-2017 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1863739)
Hard to say which is worse but I'd say hitting your children. At least male circumcision has cultural/religious reasoning behind it (obviously I understand that's not the most logical thought process) whereas hitting your kids is just being a bad human because you're not a particularly good parent.

Disciplining your kids doesn't mean you are a bad parent. It is more of a cultural thing too. All those bad ass kids acting out in grocery stores because their parents won't spank them but give them a time out pfft.



Funny video. I'm sure there are white kids that got an ass whooping growing up too but doesn't play into the narrative of his video

Frownland 08-11-2017 06:22 PM

If it's a cultural thing, then that culture has ****ty parenting tactics.

Cuthbert 08-11-2017 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1863793)
Disciplining your kids doesn't mean you are a bad parent

We are specifically on about violence mate, not taking their XBox away or grounding them.

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It is more of a cultural thing too. All those bad ass kids acting out in grocery stores because their parents won't spank them but give them a time out pfft.

Funny video. I'm sure there are white kids that got an ass whooping growing up too but doesn't play into the narrative of his video
Did you read the link Chio posted?

Lucem Ferre 08-11-2017 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor (Post 1863702)
It's not that hard to understand that sex and gender are two different things

The only thing being "forced" on anyone is reality

Nope. A person with a dick is not a female in my eyes. In reality a person with a dick is a male. Or a shemale. Or a hermaphrodite. I have yet to be given any kind of logical explanation or facts as to why I should think other wise.

And yes, I will address people by what gender they prefer most of the time out of politeness and the fear of making somebody feel unwelcome. But to tell me that I'm wrong and ignorant or insensitive or closed minded because I don't see a man with a dick and a beard as a female is ironically and hypocritically closed minded, bigoted and insensitive to me. It's forcing me to validate somebody else's ego by faking or hiding what I believe less I get treated a way that I would NEVER treat any of these people despite one small disagreement. I welcome them wanting to believe they are what ever gender they want but don't get treated with the same respect to believe otherwise. Like, how you dress or what you listen to or your hobby's or sexuality or gender preference does not affect me and I will not treat somebody like they are unwelcome for it. But you can't force me into believing Greenday is a good band. In your perception, they are a good band, in my perception they are a terrible band. I'm not going to call them a good band to fit your feelings. Why should I do that with gender identity? And **** most of you pretending like you care about people's feelings anyways. You're just taking an idea that's shoved down your throat with out questioning it and illogically running with it to fit in with the 'progressive' crowd and create the illusion that you are sensitive. This is shenanigans.

But yeah, I'll call people what gender they prefer. But I won't hide how I feel if it comes up. And I shouldn't be treated like a piece of **** for it.


Also, for DJ, I have a friend who used to literally introduce himself as ******. He used to tell us all to call him ******. That's what he liked to be called. I wouldn't call him that, I don't feel comfortable doing it. Just as I feel uncomfortable calling Batlord a girl. Nah, that's a big harry man. And if Bat changed his name, we'd probably all still call him Batlord. Or Charles. Because that's how WE identify him.

djchameleon 08-11-2017 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Man like Monkey (Post 1863803)
We are specifically on about violence mate, not taking their XBox away or grounding them.

Spanking isn't violence.

Beating them is violence.

Would you like me to find you a link that says the complete opposite of chio's link. There are studies out there making both claims.

Chula Vista 08-11-2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle (Post 1863739)
hitting your kids is just being a bad human because you're not a particularly good parent.

Stop talking out of your judgemental ass.

Lucem Ferre 08-11-2017 09:14 PM

I don't think there is a manual for being a good parent.

djchameleon 08-11-2017 09:16 PM

Apparently Goofle has this manual though and knows exactly how to be one without ever raising a kid


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