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Queen Boo 02-22-2022 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2200031)
When all of that disproportionately affects one political side more than the other my question remains unchanged.

And whose fault is that?

Frownland 02-22-2022 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2200058)
This is ignoring my point. Facebook is an American company who will be regulated by American lawmakers. Look at the recent history of America and tell me how we're going to pass laws to stop Facebook from spreading misinformation about vaccines and stolen elections.

Facebook is legally located in Liberia to avoid just that

The Batlord 02-22-2022 11:42 AM

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Guybrush 02-22-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2200058)
This is ignoring my point. Facebook is an American company who will be regulated by American lawmakers. Look at the recent history of America and tell me how we're going to pass laws to stop Facebook from spreading misinformation about vaccines and stolen elections.

Facebook's behaviour isn't regulated in the US alone. Its algorithms and policies change in different parts of the world and the legalities that apply there. I mean, it would be weird if a company with 300 million users in India could only be regulated from the US.

And I'm not saying I have a solution. I'm not an expert at regulating megacorps, but there are people with that skill set.

What I'm thinking from a very basic pov is that they should combat widespread, harmful falsehoods, f.ex. that the Sandy hook shooting was fake and orchestrated. You and me don't have to find the technical solution. We just hold Meta accountable for stuff they publish, more like if they were a regular media house / newspaper. Then they can spend some of their trillions of dollars towards finding a solution. I mean, if FB can't, who can?

This does tie in with algorithms as they're the ones that might grab something like fake Sandy hook news and further spread (publish) that.

I think there should be some laws for what algorithms can and can't do, think a more advanced version of Aasimov's law of robotics. Algorithms shouldn't f.ex. promote violence and various other kinds of harmful behaviour.

Some bureau, or perhaps several, should audit companies that make these codes and also test/audit their algorithms.

These are just my simpleton ideas, mind you.

The Batlord 02-22-2022 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Guybrush (Post 2200074)
Facebook's behaviour isn't regulated in the US alone. Its algorithms and policies change in different parts of the world and the legalities that apply there. I mean, it would be weird if a company with 300 million users in India could only be regulated from the US.

And I'm not saying I have a solution. I'm not an expert at regulating megacorps, but there are people with that skill set.

What I'm thinking from a very basic pov is that they should combat widespread, harmful falsehoods, f.ex. that the Sandy hook shooting was fake and orchestrated. You and me don't have to find the technical solution. We just hold Meta accountable for stuff they publish, more like if they were a regular media house / newspaper. Then they can spend some of their trillions of dollars towards finding a solution. I mean, if FB can't, who can?

This does tie in with algorithms as they're the ones that might grab something like fake Sandy hook news and further spread (publish) that.

I think there should be some laws for what algorithms can and can't do, think a more advanced version of Aasimov's law of robotics. Algorithms shouldn't f.ex. promote violence and various other kinds of harmful behaviour.

Some bureau, or perhaps several, should audit companies that make these codes and also test/audit their algorithms.

These are just my simpleton ideas, mind you.

Do you think the Indian government is going to crack down on anti-Muslim hate speech on Facebook? I don't think your ideas are necessarily bad, I just think they're not going to happen.

Guybrush 02-22-2022 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2200078)
I don't think your ideas are necessarily bad, I just think they're not going to happen.

I think it's imperative that we try and that we work towards it.

I hope in the future, they will think back on our time now as a time when the social media situation was a relatively barbaric state of affairs; a challenging time we had to get through before we learned to regulate and live with that technology in a way that benefits us more.

Mindfulness 02-22-2022 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 2200078)
Do you think the Indian government is going to crack down on anti-Muslim hate speech on Facebook? I don't think your ideas are necessarily bad, I just think they're not going to happen.

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Exo 02-22-2022 01:47 PM

I can't believe I'm the one who started this thread.


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