Now...the next article I'm working on is: 15 Weakest Members of The Justice League

Anyone wanna put in some input? This one shouldn't be too difficult I think.

Considering that the Justice League has at times included just about every DC Comics hero that is in fact kind of hard.

Batman #1 weakest/lame.

Just do 15 different shitty versions of him.

Yeah, but i'll probably just choose ones that I hate in all honesty.

#savage

**** you, twat. How is he weaker/lamer than Green Arrow, Hawk and Dove, or Vibe the breakdancing superhero?

Cuz he's overhyped by fuckbois like you.

If I use this to describe him in my article, I'll be sure to credit you.

Except he's got some of the best superhero comics ever made. Read The Long Halloween, The Dark Knight Returns, Year One, or Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth and come back to me.

let's the haters hate, their loss.

I'm here to insult you, not make legitimate arguments.

Edit: Qwerty too. :pimp:

Read one of the best comics ever made and then insult the B-Man.

Batman - Year One (Frank Mi…rar (46,41 MB) - uploaded.net

I believe you. I'm just not into comics, and most of the people that hype him prolly don't have 1% of the knowledge about him that you do.

Probably not. But the best Batman comics pretty much totally outclass 99% of superhero comics not about him. That's largely because his myth has given him many of the best writers ever, but Superman and many other superheros have been given many of the same chances and have not risen to the challenge like Batman has.

What about them exactly? That argument doesn't mean much to someone as naive to the subject as me.

He beats up bad guys, just like other heroes. Where does it differentiate?

If you look at the four comics I mentioned it's not so much because he's a normal human being and therefore relatable, cause he's not. His superpower is that his will is unimaginable, to an extent that a normal person can relate to his mindset as much as they can relate to Superman's strength or the Flash's speed. He trained his mind and body through long years in a way that no person on earth will likely ever be capable of doing.

It's honestly more his aesthetic. He's a street level hero who lends himself very much to noir. Year One and The Long Halloween are both very much film noir in superhero form. The Dark Knight Returns is sort of noir combined with cyber punk. And Arkham Asylum is noir on acid. All while telling stories that are human.

Batman's real appeal is that he is superhero deconstruction without having to try.

Lol bat is mad

I just know when I see Bat-ignorance.

Oh man! That's a thing? :laughing:

As to Batman, would it not be the fact that he's not indestructible like Superman or some of the others, that, in addition to having no actual superpowers (bat hearing/sight? Radar?) he can and is sometimes beaten, or at least thwarted by his enemies? People like to see a superhero who can be brought down, at least temporarily, otherwise they might as well be reading about gods.

And yes, I know Superman can be neutralised with Kryptonite, but you can't walk into your local store and buy half a pound of that, can you? Also, look at the heroes in Watchmen: I don't think you'll find a single one of them who has an actual power (other than Doctor Manhattan, obviously). Never quite got the attraction of Supe: if you're basically indestructible, can see through things and run faster than a speeding bullet, who's gonna stop you? Who would bother trying? This is what I like about Spidey too: no real superpowers other than spider speed, spidey sense ah ****.... :(

I think this is EXACTLY what I dislike about the character. I can't comment on the overall story, but he DOES have superpowers and they pass it off like he doesn't.

If there was a hero that train there body "through long years in a way that no person on earth will likely every be capable of doing", and they somehow had the strength of the Hulk would you buy it? No, cause it's bs. Call Batman what he is, don't play him off as some extraordinary human and then write him as something obviously beyond human.

He has super strength, inhuman agility, and that spider sense. He's actually pretty powerful as far as your average superhero goes. He just gets the piss taken out of him cause that's his schtick.

But his capabilities are something he's earned through his dedication. Sure he's been born with an indomitable will and lots of money, but everything he's used to fight crime he's earned rather than being born with or falling into a vat of chemicals or whatever. Even his expensive gadgets he invented himself. He's basically a Greek Herculean ideal of what a person being could be if he tried as hard as is humanly possible to try (assuming comic book standards of human capabilities). You know, instead of being an alien who would otherwise have been just some nice guy.

Oh and don't forget about Snapper Carr.

Yeh, I get that, I just don't buy it. I've never really been a fan of overcoming adversity stories except for The Replacements because that movie is great.

Yeah I know. I realised that as I was writing it, hence the "ah ****"...

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I imagine "as we've seen" doesn't actually mean you read any comics to back up your statements. I'm assuming you found other clickbait articles and ripped them off or went to real comic book readers on a comic forum and they spoonfed you your article.

I have to cater to the reader.

In other words: I have to act like I know what I'm talking about.