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Old 06-09-2022, 08:44 AM   #641 (permalink)
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Yeah so if it happened in the 70s and you waited till me too to say something then i feel like it's at least partially your fault you didn't get justice.
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Old 06-09-2022, 09:36 AM   #642 (permalink)
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Get raped and see how you feel.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 06-09-2022, 10:02 AM   #643 (permalink)
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I did have a close call with that pedo and i didn't report him. If he went on to molest someone else that is partially my fault.
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Old 06-09-2022, 10:28 AM   #644 (permalink)
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Alright so let's blame you and ignore the pedo's responsibility for trying **** kids.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 06-09-2022, 10:37 AM   #645 (permalink)
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Nah i said partially

The pedo is who he is. If you decide to keep your mouth shut that has the consequence of letting a predator go free, which is immoral.
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Old 06-09-2022, 10:56 AM   #646 (permalink)
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No no we're taking your approach and only mentioning the weakness of the case against the perpetrator and concentrating on the moral weakness of the victim, cause that's what's really important.
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Old 06-09-2022, 12:02 PM   #647 (permalink)
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The weakness of the case was relevant to why he got let off - which is where this conversation started.

As far as i know, the allegations he actually went to court for were more recently (2004 or something) like rubber soul said. The majority of the allegations from the 60s, 70s, 80s etc actually came out after the testimony of that case went public. If Cosby did rape all these women, the weakness of the case is due largely to the decades of silence. That doesn't mean he's any less of a rapist if it did go down like that. But it's not clear what actually happened because the evidence is largely long gone.
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I mean it's obviously the women's fault for not coming forward.
This ain't it chief.
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Old 06-09-2022, 06:16 PM   #649 (permalink)
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The weakness of the case was relevant to why he got let off - which is where this conversation started.

As far as i know, the allegations he actually went to court for were more recently (2004 or something) like rubber soul said. The majority of the allegations from the 60s, 70s, 80s etc actually came out after the testimony of that case went public. If Cosby did rape all these women, the weakness of the case is due largely to the decades of silence. That doesn't mean he's any less of a rapist if it did go down like that. But it's not clear what actually happened because the evidence is largely long gone.
Yes rape cases are notoriously hard to prosecute because without an immediate rape kit there tends to be little to no evidence and traumatized rape victims tend to be "shy" about reporting their attackers even when they're not rich and powerful people who can drag their name through the mud for scumbag to jeer at. This can't be your first time being made aware of this.
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Old 06-09-2022, 06:43 PM   #650 (permalink)
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I'm sure people have reasons not to report but the problem with that is I'm not %100 sure that what they said even happened because of that lack of evidence where as it seems to be taken for granted he serially raped like 50 women based on hear say. Even if there was a history of it being reported or people pressing charges back then, that would tell us more circumstantially even without a rape kit necessarily.

Rubber soul said we turned a blind eye... Correct me if I'm wrong but the 2004 allegations were the first public hint of any of this. I could be wrong but i don't see anyone who actually alleged anything publicly or pressed charges before that incident.
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